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[-] [email protected] 139 points 1 week ago

The Dunning Krugers are at it again.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

That's exactly it. Here's a quote from what he said during the article. Dude is so uniformed that he thinks AI is doing amazing stuff, but doesn't understand that experts realize AI is full of shit.

“I pinged Elon on at some point. I’m just like, dude, if I’m doing this and I’m super amateur hour physics enthusiast, like what about all those PhD students and postdocs that are super legit using this tool?” Kalanick said.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This PhD mostly uses it to summarize emails from the administration. It does a shit job, but it frees up time for more science so who cares.

The real irony is that the administration probably used AI to write the emails in the first place. The mails have gotten significantly longer, less dense and the grammar has gotten better.

Begun this AI arms race has.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Out of context, and I didn't read the rest, that sounds reasonable.

"If my dumbass is learning and finding, what about actual pros?!"

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

"If I'm learning this much from Baby's First ABCs, imagine what a literature professor could do with it!"

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Lots of things seem reasonable if you skip the context and critical reasoning. It's good to keep some past examples of this that personally bother you in your back pocket. Then you have it as an antidote for examples that don't bother you.

[-] [email protected] 112 points 1 week ago

Billionaires are going to vibe themselves to death and I support them.

[-] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago

It's exactly what I was thinking. They should let the AI build a spaceship and all get into it. Would be the greatest achievement in humans history.. when it blows up and kills all of them.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Or vibe build a deep sea submarine, cause well you know.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

If only. They'll fill it with sycophants until the explosions stop. They're just more resources for them to use.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

If you think about it, they've been doing that for a while with experimental life extending stuff, of course now they're a bit more likely not to die with modern medicine being so good

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I just hope that in the process they don't ruin the world for the rest of us

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[-] [email protected] 82 points 1 week ago

Someone should tell them to let LLMs make financial decisions for them.

[-] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well... IIRC a chimp did great in the stockmarket compared to professional traders, maybe it's time to give something even "stupider" a chance. I mean how much of a difference is there between a buzzword fueled techbro and a predictive text engine regurgitating random posts from the internet?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just listen to Cramer and then... don't do that.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

There was an anti Cramer index fund for a while.

[-] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago

CEOs seem to be particularly susceptible to AI marketing.

I'm kind of in the crux of four decent sized companies and every CEO I see is going gaga over AI.

It's somewhere in between if you don't embrace this technology you'll be left behind and you can Make your workforce many times faster with this one stupid.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Executives and venture capitalists are among the dumbest among us. They have the kind of money that even failure can’t seem to erase fast enough and they’re basically just lottery winners that think they did all the hardwork themselves. Not really surprising that they think they have any useful skills or the ability to understand stuff way outside of their incredibly limited “skillset”.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

in the dotcom days I worked for an "interactive agency". We took people that had product ideas or website ideas brought them in charge them and exorbitant amount of money, made them a professional flash website, got them some awards from whoever would give away awards for ideas and hope them up with venture capitalists. The one thing I can say about all those venture capitalists is they Will throw cash at anything that might make the money. If it fails it's tax abatement. If one in 10 succeeds they make a s*** ton of money off of it.

AI doesn't even need to be good it just needs to be perceived as worth something and they make money.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Yup. They’re basically just wallets that burn slightly less money than they make and it’s all randomized because they have no real skill to direct any of it.

And then they take home millions while the people they paid make rapidly less and less money the further down the chain you go. AI is just their way to make sure they don’t even need to really pay anyone else at all and to be able to convince people that they had an idea for the first time ever.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

AI seems to be targeted specifically to ceos who arnt stem majors, make it sound sciency enough so they will fund the scam, almost bordering on pseudoscience.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Many CEOs display sociopathic traits. Employees aren't people. They're parts of machine parts that you have to pay, but when you put them together form a company.

Now what if you could remove a proportion on those parts and replace them with automated parts you don't have to pay.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

CEOs think in bullet points. LLMs can spit out bulleted lists of confident-sounding utterances with ease.

It is not too surprising that people who see the world through overly simplified disconnected summaries are impressed by LLMs

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

I unironically started to dislike the bullet point presentation format, even the axios smart brevity format. I feel like it's treating me like I'm too dumb to read a news report or a normal text. That why it matters feels like being instructed on how to think. It's honestly bullocks and it was turning me into a worse reader.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I feel the same way. This style of thinking can have pretty serious consequences for decision makers.

But, on the other hand, all my bosses think in bullet points, and I am usually the one that writes the bullets. . .

[-] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago

LLMs are like Trump government appointees:

  • They hallucinate like they're on drugs
  • They repeat whatever they've seen on the internet
  • They are easily maniuplated
  • They have never thought about a single thing in their lives

Ergo, they cannot and will not ever discover anything new.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

LLMs have already discovered new proofs for math problems that were previously unsolved. Granted, this hasn't been done with a commercially available model as far a I know, but you are technically wrong to say they will never discover anything new.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

... please tell me someone has a functioning Warp Drive gathering dust somewhere, we need the Vulcans, like... a week ago...

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

I do. I wasn't sure anyone was interested. DM me your PO box and I'll ship it over so you can mess around next weekend.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Fair warning, though, might get scratched😬

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago

LLMs: hallucinate like that guy from school who took every drug under the moon.

Actual trained specially AI: finds new particles, cures for viruses, stars, methods…

But the latter one doesn’t tell it in words, it does in the special language you use to get the data in the first place, like numbers and codes.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Just to built on this and give some more unasked for info:

All of AI is a fancy dancy interpolation algorithm. Mostly, too fancy for us to understand how it works.

LLMs use that interpolation to predict next words in sentences. With enough complexity you get ChatGPT.

Other AIs still just interpolate from known data, so they point to reasonable conclusions from known data. Then those hypotheses still need to be studied and tested.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Neural Networks, which are the base technology of what nowadays gets called AI, are just great automated pattern detection systems, which in the last couple of years with the invention of things like adversarial training can also be made to output content that match those patterns.

The simpler stuff that just does pattern recognition without the fancy outputting stuff that matches the pattern was already, way back 3 decades ago, recognized at being able to process large datasets and spot patterns which humans hadn't been able to spot: for example there was this NN trained to find tumors in photos which seemed to work perfectly in testing but didn't work at all in practice, and it turned out that the NN had been trained with pictures were all those with tumors had a ruler next to it showing its size and those without tumors did not, so the pattern derived in training by the NN for "tumor present" was actually the presence of the ruler.

Anyways, it's mainly this simpler and older stuff that can be used to help with scientific discovery by spotting in large datasets patterns which we humans have not, mainly because they can much faster and more easily trawl through an entire haystack to find the needles than we humans can, but like in the "tumor detection NN" example above, sometimes the patterns aren't in the data but in the way the data was obtained.

The fancy stuff that actually outputs content that matches patterns detected in the data, such as LLMs and image generation, and which is fueling the current AI bubble, is totally irrelevant for this kind of use.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

I will be soooo pissed if we get faster then light travel from an LLM, but never know how it works.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Hnnnngggg the machine spirit demands mountain dew!

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Drink verification can or be violently ripped atom from atom in an unplanned hyperspace exit.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

step one, cover yourself in oil

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

And it would be like that, I picture a ton of seemingly pointless steps and then the effect.

And ever worse is it would ether not work unless every silly step was done or (possibly even more dark) we remove steps and it still works to the point that all the steps are gone, and its just a button.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

I suppose we're about to find out if these things (LLMs) are any good at extrapolation. I expect not really as they're effectively just interpolation machines.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

Extrapolation? You’re lucky to get a regular serving of polation. And that joke was worth the hundreds of billions of dollars invested in algorithms.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago
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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

> vibe codes flight trajectory
> realizes physics isn’t as forgiving as a shitty SASS startup
> everyone dies
> ✨vibe physics✨

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

The worst part is some useful things could come from it, because we're hurtling towards infinite monkeys. It'll only be by pure happenstance, and unless they are lucky enough to randomly find a really great breakthrough it still won't be worth the massive resources they've wasted.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

One of the reasons they give for it is : physicists use LLMs in their workflows, so LLMs are close to make physics discoveries themselves.

Clearly, these statements are meant to hype up the AI bubble even more.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Bah, humbug! In my days we used a rubber ducky, IF WE HAD ONE, or just the stick we were beaten with for using too many precious CPU cycles, and we were FINE!

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Oh, vibe physics tends to sort itself out over time.

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