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[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

The answer is a general strike, but I have no fucking idea how we'd pull that off in the USA without the majority becoming homeless.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Historically it has been sustained, smaller, local action that has produced results far more frequently than attempted general strikes. Everybody wants to do this the quick way and they aren’t willing to roll up their sleeves and put in the time to do it locally. They think that everybody’s just going to nod and stop working and it’s all going to be glorious, but that’s just not how it goes down. You can count the number of truly successful general strikes that were clear victories on one hand.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Consumption strike. Just stop buying nonessentials. Rent strike, mortgage strike. Protests are worthless if you're still buying crap from amazon and eating at chain restaurants.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

I guess I've been on an involuntary consumption strike for the last 10 years or so then lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Like the Roman plebs used to do. Just every pleb go on vacation to the country at the same time, leaving the rich to fend for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Mutual aid is probably the best we could do in the short term

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Peaceful protest is legal because it accomplishes nothing.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago

Peaceful protest was the compromise. It's time the owning class is reminded of this.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Probably because we haven't had any actual mass protests

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I guess that depends on who 'we' means? The September climate protests were pretty big globally, with 50 countries participating.

As someone who has been to protests in the past for various topics, my experience is that the media isn't interested in reporting on them unless they get dramatic eye-catching footage. Which unfortunately usually means just the ones that have a physical fight break out make the front page anywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Also because even if you are protesting for someone's right, that same person will hate you if you block the road or inconvenience them in any way.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Protesting does not do anything because politians are not accountable to voters. People who they are accountable to don't give two fucks if pleb burn down parts of cities. They will get contracts to clean it up.

Hurt their profits is the only language they understand.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Or, start taking the protests and riots to their doorsteps.

They don't care when you burn the areas they don't live in. But when you take the protest to them... They scream and call for more cops. But in the time it takes for the cops to show up, you can do a lot of damage, especially if you have a thousand friends.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm telling you, an army of vuvuzela-players and mimes to follow elected officials around in public, with a shift roster to get 24/7 coverage. No media interviews without the droning hum of a vuvuzela, no photo opportunities without a sneaky mime making an exaggerated lewd pose in the background, no pleasant meals with lobbyists without a distant but audible brrrrrrrrrrrr.

The media chooses not to report on peaceful protests all the time, but they always give coverage to Gaetz, Cruz and Graham talking absolute shit. Make them edit the videos to take out mimes and vuvuzelas.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What mass protests? Have any of yall been protesting?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you even say the word "guillotine" in most forums and you get banned, so no wonder things will never escalate to where they need to.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Liberals: "We want change NOW!"

Me too my brothers!

Liberals: "The Christo-fascists are taking control!"

Too late, they're in control and consolidating power.

Liberals: "Cops are running amok and accountable to no one!"

No shit. Just now figuring this out?

Liberals: "Turn in your guns and disarm yourselves!"

hold up...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well we should really try a mass protest first. If we can actually get people together we can see if mass protest work. The only other attentive is to compost the rich!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

One huge problem is that we're too gatekeep-y to the political "other". If a large chunk of the population is excluded because you don't like who they voted for, you'll never get enough people marching to see a change

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

We all fart into pillows for hours, then tell the baddies we bought a new fabric softener that smells like peach

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

The only actual wealth redistribution to the working class that has happened in recent years are the flash mobs looting from stores during the pandemic

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

People expect way to much change from a single protest. You need to contact your representative and get enough people to join in order to get some attention.

Your protest also can't be silly like a lot of recent protests are don't go protest the 2016 election or 2020 election as you will accomplish nothing. Also make sure you have some sort of purpose or end goal. All of the protests I've heard about have no purpose.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

So you're going to ignore the decades of protests about climate action? That have all been ignored because the people in power will never give a shit about your protest if its easily ignored.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

If we take out the guillotines, there will be much change from a single protest

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