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Former President Donald Trump received a $5,000 fine on Friday for violating the gag order put in place by Judge Arthur Engoron to protect his staff and his courtroom’s proceedings.

$5000. What bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 years ago (2 children)

5k? What a loser, that Judge should throw it up to 200k and state if it happens again it will include jail time. Why does everyone walk on eggshells with these idiots, I don't care who it is, fine them and jail them

[–] thepianistfroggollum 41 points 2 years ago

It should have already included jail time. If you or I violated a gag order they'd just revoke bail.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Unfortunately Trump's best and only defense right now is that this is all a deep state witch hunt and he's being treated unfairly by the justice system. The way to not let that defense gain any traction is to make it painfully obvious to any observer that they are handling Trump as a defendant with kid gloves.

[–] thepianistfroggollum 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like treating him like a regular person would also demonstrate that they're treating him fairly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's the average punishment for what he did? Perhaps it's a $5k fine. I don't have a clue.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

I cannot fathom how people don't get this. Look, if I told you what I would do to every human being that planned and participated on 01/06, I would get perma banned. I got more PTSD from that day than from literally having my ass kicked and robbed on Christmas Eve. I'm more than a leetle mad.

But we gotta handle this very damned carefully. Yes, that means being more than fair to Trump. We're going for the slam dunk conviction of the century, arguably the last two centuries.

I want this man in a concrete and steel box, with zero wiggle room to whine about unfairness.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

painfully obvious to any observer

That's the problem right there: Trumpers aren't "observing" any of this, they're just absorbing what (little) the right-wing media are saying about all of this. And the right-wing media will say it's a witch hunt regardless of what's actually going on. Worrying about what the right-wing media are going to say about anything is a losing game.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Give. Him. A. Cell.

You know how many angsty rich white male teens are frustrated Daddy's money hasn't gotten them any pussy yet that are just so fucking inspired?

They don't see that $5000 and think trump did wrong. They see it and think that with enough money, there is no wrong.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh don't worry, further violations "will subject the violator to far more severe sanctions." So... you know... $6000.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

Oh noooooo! $5,000.00? He might have to look behind all three sofa cushions to raise all that!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/judge-engoron-explains-dollar-amount-behind-trump-s-gag-order-fine/ar-AA1iAM0h

Engoron told the former president and his attorneys in court Friday that he wanted to "make clear that Mr. Trump is responsible for the large machine, even if it is a large machine," reported CNBC. However, in his written motion, the judge said that a fine of $5,000—a small financial burden for Trump—was reasonable given that it was a "first time violation."

"Make no mistake," Engoron added, "Future violations, whether intentional or unintentional will subject the violator to far more severe sanctions, which may include, but are not limited to, steeper financial penalties, holding Donald Trump in contempt of court, and possibly imprisoning him pursuant to New York Judiciary Law."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

Giving this fucker a warning at this stage is absolutely ridiculous. He's done so much damage and just continues to get treated like some special snowflake.

It's fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

It should have been $5,000 a day until he apologized to the staff named in his attack.

[–] Case 18 points 2 years ago

If the punishment is a fine, it just means there is a cost to the activity. It isn't actually illegal, you just can't afford it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What kind of softcore court porn shit is this?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

softcore court porn

That is a fabulous tongue twister. I can barely think it without getting tangled.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A) it is a pitiful amount

B) he will get his rubes to pay it

No incentive to STFU.

Tired of the courts twisting themselves into pretzels to accommodate this creep.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The judge explained the reasoning. This was a warning shot.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Fines are only a punishment for the impoverished.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Even one night in jail would be better.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

His fanboys will fall head over heels to pay this for their idol. He will basically make money with that move.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't worry, your grandpa does.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Fuck now I'm sad

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Let's see if that ever gets paid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I'm guessing this is a little bit of a warning shot

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

JuStICe SeRveD

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

He’s going to make millions in donations off of that $500

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Another bill he can not pay

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Seriously? jfc

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