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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"What this advertising boycott is going to do is it's going to kill the company," he said.

Nobody owes you anything, you idiot. Businesses have the right to decide not to advertise with you, people have the right not to go to your platform, groups have the right not to host their content there. Your business was a convenient and vaguely congenial place for everyone to meet, but that's not true anymore.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

They only want a market that's free for them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

"My free speech! Wait, free speech is when everybody is forced to listen to me, then forced to agree with me enthusiastically and then forced to give me money for what I said, right?

Right?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Also yes it’s going to kill the company. Boycotts against company owners aren’t meant to be “please sir stop being a piece of shit” they’re meant to hurt. They’re meant to send a clear and painful message, and ideally create room for a less piece of shit alternative to succeed

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago

"The whole world will know those advertisers killed the company, and we will document it in great detail," he added.

Absolute spoiled bratt, nothing is his fault.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

At this point there is zero doubt left that Musk is an idiot.

All he did was being born rich and being lucky with his investments so far.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah he’s sorry for the tweet…now. Not when he posted it, not when people complained but now - when the consequences hit and it cost him money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And not even then. When it became so much money it might sink his ship. When he thought he could weather it until it passed he tried lashing out without apologizing.

And also yeah he’s apologizing about the antisemitism and racism. But he’s not apologizing about the other bigotry. Only the bigotry that was able to gather enough backlash to actually hurt him

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

What a spoiled brat

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

You know, at this point, any sensible company will take a single look at Musk's tantrums and decide that advertising on Twitter is a massive legal liability they cannot afford. Not only is their public image in danger because the content is so badly moderated and offensive content is allowed, but Musk threatens to sue them if they even consider terminating their existing campaigns. Heck, this is to say nothing about the impersonators. The only way for brands to stay safe is to get the hell out and just state that they have no official presence on Twitter. Staying on Twitter is just a disaster waiting to happen.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Elon seems more and more like an escaped mental patient....

I think the stress is really getting to him, I feel kinda bad for him actually....

Or, I would feel bad for him, if he wasn't a complete dickhead.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

He's in the early stages of turning orange.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not thinking mental patient but rather the panic attack of someone who set themselves on fire by trying to shoot a bottle rocket out of their ass while so drunk they’re barely standing. It’s the insanity of many bad decisions that he could have avoided coming together to create an emergency and him not being in a position to step back and rationally triage himself but rather going by gut instinct to try to fight the firefighters

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I can see that, I wonder what will happen when he crashes and burns, when the Elon bubble pops, as from what I can tell it is just a matter of time...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

He’ll still be a billionaire thanks to his other companies which are harder for him to rapidly kill. I see him having either the Lindbergh experience or the notch experience. Notch is still around, rich as fuck, massively bigoted, and extremely unpopular not just with society as a whole, but like in a doesn’t have friends way. But Lindbergh, he was a lot like musk until he ran for nazi president of America and was pretty popular until everyone who had supported him had to pretend they didn’t.

So yeah, either rich fascist who’s so lonely you’re actually kinda surprised he hasn’t died by his own hand, or rich fascist who’s trying to wade into some form of political power (musk being naturalized means he can’t be president thank fuck). Though there’s also the Thiel/Rowling route of rich fascist who is widely disliked but throws money at politicians promising to hurt people he doesn’t like and gets his way more than people would like.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are in luck: Space Karen loves to cry

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I can't imagine being a multi billionaire and being such a miserable attention whore

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Perfectly normal behavior.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Elon Musk finally learns the real truth that no one really wants to say: There is no such thing as free speech in the United States.

If saying an opinion gets you fired from your job, or gets advertisers pulled from your site: guess what, that opinion might as well be banned from being posted.

Being held at virtual gunpoint from corporations is no different from being held at actual gunpoint from governments. This is why right-wingers complain about bannings, because, well, they have a point. Even left-wingers get hit with this too, as certain Palestine supporters that aren't careful enough with their wording are finding out.

I'd rather at least have the government say "To promote social cohesion and understanding, saying X opinion about Y groups of people, and stating Z false information will no longer be allowed". Don't get me wrong, that's still invasive as hell and a horrifying precedent to set, but having to walk on eggshells for fear of virtual lynch mobs that can pop up at will and say "He said X he said X fire him and uproot his life or we will drag you through the mud and make you lose precious consumer money!!!!" with little rhyme or reason, never stopping until their existence in society is ruined is not something that a society should support either.

That is simply vigilante justice via keyboard instead of handgun.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as free speech in the United States.

If saying an opinion gets you fired from your job, or gets advertisers pulled from your site: guess what, that opinion might as well be banned from being posted.

Free speech is when you can say things without consequences, apparently? So I guess your free speech to say stupid shit is more important than other peoples' free speech to react to what you say or to choose not to associate with you?

I'm surprised at how many knuckledraggers seem to forget that freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences, and freedoms go both ways.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

You’re fucking around right?

If you say shitty things then expect shitty responses.

Why should we have to have a law about it?

Does this mean I have to shop from someone who says things I disagree with?

It’s the social contract friend, at least we aren’t in England or Russia where people are getting arrested over blank pieces of paper.

Although that might have changed already for all I know.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Free speech is about protecting people from a government response to their speech, and even that carves out exceptions for incitement to violence, yelling fire in a crowded theater, etc. I know you mention government bans of certain language, but it misses the mark of what we have defined free speech to be, which is protection from government reprisal.

I have to disagree with the notion that we don't have free speech because people face consequences for what they say. Those consequences may be an inducement to behave in a social cohesive or expected way, but even if you wanted to protect people from that, it would require infringing on others rights. The advertisers have a right not to be associated with Musk. I have a right to dissociate from racists. The only way to protect racists from these consequences would be to infringe on my right not to associate with them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

loosing a shitty job vs a mob tearing you from your bed, stripping you naked, beating you, setting you on fire and posing with your mangled carcass....

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/45/75/77/9953221/5/1200x0.jpg

totally the same... reicht?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Having free speech has nothing to do with having no consequences to what you say. Sure In some instances there might be overreaction and especially companies prefer to be on the safe side of social discourse. The issue there is not free speech but workers rights (in the US at least). But that does not limit your free speech, you're still free to say and publish it. But nobody is required to actually listen to it, or publish it for you. Just because we are free to say what we want, does not make all opinions equal in worth.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

You have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re too stupid to understand what the guarantee to free speech even means.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The government has not limited speech on Twitter, dumbass.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Someone doesn't know what free speech means lol. Such a smooth-brained comment. I love it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

One day, Elon will no longer exist. That will be a good day for humanity. But sadly he's just a symptom of the billionaires-exist problem. If a matter-energy conversion device ever gets invented and hopefully democratized, money will become meaningless -- and it will drown people like him in their own narcissism.