Imagine actually using TikTok. Life is too short to spend your time on that shit.
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Why must people yuck other people's yum?
I used to watch Tiktok a lot. It's the primary way I heard and learned about left side politics. It has it's uses.
Yeah I genuinely see no difference between tiktok and other social media. Everyone on reddit/lemmy loves to hate on tiktok I never really got why. If it's because of data collection they're doing nothing any different than Facebook, insta, etc. Now X, that's another story lol.
I think Western people just have a bias where it's fine if their own country does it, but when their boogeyman China is doing the same exact thing, it's all of the sudden scary and bad.
I, personally, think TikTok is not great for people or society, but I have the same exact feelings about Facebook, Instagram, and all of the major Western run social media stuff. TikTok is by no means any worse than them. For that reason, Lemmy is the only social media account I have at this point, but I dont judge anyone for using any of them. The majority of the people criticizing TikTok are hypocritical, for sure.
Yeah. All of these social media platforms are pretty bad. TikTok has been caught abusing android bugs, basically behaving like a virus. I'm sure the others have done something similar.
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Lemmy is not better if your concerned about using your time wisely
True, but lemmy content is less click baity and less refreshed in general which makes me use it less, and I actually love that.
I don't want more content!
I dunno. It’s full of articles, I’m reading news constantly, I’m discussing social topics with—now that I think I about it, surprisingly level headed people sharing interesting opinions….i learn a lot here. Sure, I also get shown really stupid shit. But I spend the majority of my time reading stuff. And looking up other stuff when I discuss things. So I’d disagree. Respectfully. My good friend.
It's better because it includes the friction of clicking through instead of being force fed videos one after the other.
I don't use TikTok, but this comment has it backwards. Life is too short to deny yourself fun for some kind of perceived superiority.
Strongly disagree. Life is too short to spend your life on a toxic platform that rots your brain out
That kinda sounds just like a boomer opinion about anything on the internet.
While generally I'd agree with you, these apps are engineered to exploit human weaknesses to make a few people money and have real and measurable effects on the human psyche. From reduced attention spans due to short form or dense content, to problems with self-worth, these apps are literally bad for you if you engage with them a lot - which, again, they are engineered to get you to do. They are completely manipulative and not "just another fun thing".
You can also have fun by reading a book. Or making something. Or going out.
Thanks, you make good points. I like your comment better than the one where the guy told me to eat shit.
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Time enjoyed is not wasted.
Of course, Tik Tok isn't my jam, so it would be a waste of time for me.
Let's not suggest that addiction to social media somehow counts as time enjoyed
Everyone isn't addicted to social media, it's about learning to set clear boundaries. My wife has IG and a few times a week we'll watch reels on her phone before bed. We have a few laughs together and spend ten minutes on it tops. I consider it quality time and actually look forward to it.
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I watch a tiktok maybe once a day. The algorithm is mostly cooking and science for me. It's highly enjoyable content if you get past the noise and obviously don't overuse it. That can be said for any social media app, including lemmy.
I think it's a short-sighted move by Universal. Granted, maybe they know something we don't (Tiktok getting banned soon), but the benefit in TikTok for artists isn't necessarily the revenue but the promotion of their songs. They are short clips, usually no more than 15~20 seconds long. Lots of people use the songs in their videos, lots more people listen to a clip and want to listen to the full thing -> they go to youtube or apple music or whatever where Universal presumably would make a much larger share of the revenue.
This should have far more upvotes than the easy “TikTok sucks” comments above. Whether you like the platform or not, it directly generates revenue for the musicians.
Anecdotally, the amount of times my kids have heard a song on TikTok then gone on to Apple Music and added it to their playlist - then usually listening to other songs by the same artists - must be in the hundreds by now.
TikTok basically controls the Billboard Hot 100 right now. Some say that's why 2023 was, according to a lot of pop music critics, such a bad year for pop.
But honestly, TikTok losing control over Billboard or less UMG artists on the charts are both positives to me.
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Oh I see you haven't met yet. Kava, this is the recording industry, they wish it was legal to shoot you in the face for humming a song that sounds like one they own the copyright for unless you've paid them to hum it.
The recording industry, you're going to need a subpoena before I introduce anyone to you.
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TikTok is garbage and I don’t care how much my mate tries to get me to join, every time he sends me a link to some portrait mode video I cringe.
Everyone is a “content creator” nowadays. Which just makes the majority of said content complete shit.
If it makes you feel any better, I spent 4 minutes in my browser debug tools, deleting the mandatory login trash overlay to see a TikTok video a friend sent me. I was immediately disappointed with all of it and, while I was vindicated in my choice to not log in, I learned my lesson.
In my humble opinion of course
It's democracy, the audience is making 'every' creator famous
Just imagine how much more stupid all the TickThots will look making those stupid dance moves without any music
I love when people edit real sounds over dance videos. Grunts, shoe squeaks, clothes rustling.
Like you need music to watch that.... I've heard [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅]
Still more athletic than you
The copyright shit does go too far sometimes, but if this means I can go into public without having to hear TT on 10 different phones around me at once, I’m a fan.
Right?
Put on your damn headphones if YOU want to listen to some dumb shit. Stop with the ear rape, ffs.
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Oh no no no....also good.
Anyways, I’m going to go back to doom scrolling on this other social media site.
Universal Music Group has put their own greed above the interests of their artists and songwriters.
They want to be paid?! What is this.
... that serves as a free promotional and discovery vehicle for their talent.
Yeah, cause artists (well, people in general) love getting paid in exposure.
I know it's become a meme, but exposure is a real tangible thing. If I get a clip of my song onto millions of people's phone screens and I don't pay for it, it's basically thousands (if not tens of thousands) of dollars of free advertising.
Just because some asshole on Facebook marketplace is begging for free commissions doesn't invalidate the benefits you can gain from exposure in general.
Having said all that, we are talking about Universal not some indie folk band. The same thing Tiktok is doing to Universal (paying a very small %) is exactly what Universal does to artists. I have very little empathy for either Tiktok or Universal.
On the topic, I actually support Tiktok more in the sense that independent artists now have the means to go viral much more easily on a platform which inevitably leads to organic growth + success. Universal is a behemoth from an era that hasn't fully died.
This could be a good move for everyone. It said TikTok has agreements with everyone else so many other artists will have the chance to get noticed now. The Universal artists are already well known and don’t really need more promotion anyways. This gives the smaller people a chance. Aight I’m off to learn an instrument, write a song, create a record label, and sign up for TikTok exposure. Wish me luck…how hard could it be.
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Exposure is great until you try to pay for your groceries with exposure. The manager of my local ACME hasn’t been very receptive.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
TikTok videos have gone silent after vast number of songs were removed from the app.
Universal represents many of the world and TikTok’s biggest stars, such as Taylor Swift, Harry Styles and Adele.
A statement written as “an open letter to the artist and songwriter community” said: “TikTok proposed paying our artists and songwriters at a rate that is a fraction of the rate that similarly situated major social platforms pay.
“Today, as an indication of how little TikTok compensates artists and songwriters, despite its massive and growing user base, rapidly rising advertising revenue and increasing reliance on music-based content, TikTok accounts for only about 1% of our total revenue.
A statement from TikTok said: “It is sad and disappointing that Universal Music Group has put their own greed above the interests of their artists and songwriters.
“Despite Universal‘s false narrative and rhetoric, the fact is they have chosen to walk away from the powerful support of a platform with well over a billion users that serves as a free promotional and discovery vehicle for their talent.
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TikTok is utter trash all around but the music is the second worst part, closely behind the stupid ass fake voices.
And you still see people on it. What else is there on tiktok aside from stupid dances
Over 1 billion monthly users, about 25% of the people that use the Internet. So quite a bit more than dances tbh
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"The open letter also said TikTok allows the platform to be “flooded with AI-generated recordings”, and also develops tools to “enable, promote and encourage AI music creation on the platform itself”.
It accuses TikTok of “demanding a contractual right which would allow this content to massively dilute the royalty pool for human artists, in a move that is nothing short of sponsoring artist replacement by AI”."
Universal is just salty they didn't think of stealing all the rights via AI replacement first.
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