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The families of Sandy Hook school shooting victims voted overwhelmingly in favor of a plan to wrap up Alex Jones’ bankruptcy proceedings by liquidating the right wing talk show host’s assets.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don’t know what’s funnier; Alex Jones’s estate being liquidated to pay back the families of his victims, or Mike Lindell being forced to pay the $5 million “prize” he offered to disprove his election fraud lies, and then was sued because he refused to pay it after he was easily disproven.

God damn it’s a good week for honesty.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Jones’ general unsecured creditors—comprised mostly of Sandy Hook families holding about $1.5 billion in defamation judgments against the famed conspiracy theorist—voted 100% in favor of a Chapter 11 plan that would methodically liquidate and redistribute his property and cash, while preserving potential legal actions against parties affiliated with Jones and his Infowars program.

I hope he dies penniless under a bridge somewhere, like the troll he is.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The vote indicates the creditors’ preference over a competing plan submitted by Jones that would allow him to reorganize by preserving parts of his media empire and paying the group at least $5.5 million a year over 10 years.

Lmao this part cracks me up the most. He was like "how about instead of selling all my stuff, I give you pennies on the dollar of what I owe you for a few years and we call it good?"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

He's been dealing with some of the dumbest fucks on the planet (his viewers/listeners) for so long he thinks ridiculous shit like that works on everyone

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Would you like $100 million now or $55 million later?

He could have at least tripled the offer in order to get a real shot. I expect they're invested in his fall, however.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Once you reach a certain level of wealthy, you literally cannot die poor. Sadly this isn't the movie trading places. Billionaires don't go fully broke, they're always allowed to keep a certain level of wealth forever after

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree with you. Just a note, though; Alex isn't a billionaire. Even the plaintiff's lawyers estimated his wealth at only "as much as $270M". It still makes me sad to realize how many people he grifted, defamed, and otherwise harmed to make that much money...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well ya super rich people designed the entire legal system in the US specifically to protect themselves from ever have to face any real consequences for their crimes. You dont have to look much further than Donald J Trump to see how thats working.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

We never brought them to the guillotines in the US.

So they think they can do whatever they want.

Europe still remembers, but they are slowly forgetting too.

Might be time for another culling.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yup, usually an African prince trying to hide his wealth ends up giving a sack of cash to homeless, temporarily embarrassed billionaires while he's on a date with a business mogul's knockoff's daughter.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sandy Hook families holding about $1.5 billion in defamation judgments [...] a competing plan submitted by Jones that would allow him to reorganize by preserving parts of his media empire and paying the group at least $5.5 million a year over 10 years

Literally pennies on the dollar.

His house in Austin, that he bought for a couple million dollars, he sold to his wife in 2022 for the grand total of ten dollars. They're going to claw that back from him for trying to hide it. And then they're going to force him to sell it because Texas bankruptcy law only keeps your house in a city or town safe from bankruptcy seizure if it's one acre or less. And the lot his house is on is 1.089 acres - such a shame!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sandy Hook families holding about $1.5 billion in defamation judgments [...] a competing plan submitted by Jones that would allow him to reorganize by preserving parts of his media empire and paying the group at least $5.5 million a year over 10 years

Why did you omit the part where they didn't accept that plan? Those ellipses did some heavy lifting.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It really is the best part, because he's trying to weasel out of it saying "if you want money I've got to keep the machine running to make more" but the families holding him accountable are setting his everything on fire telling him it was never about the money, and that's awesome. He was hoping greed would save his ass but here he is in the hands of people who want real justice - the dismantling of the very machine he used to do harm.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sandy Hook families holding about $1.5 billion in defamation judgments [...] a competing plan submitted by Jones that would allow him to reorganize by preserving parts of his media empire and paying the group at least $5.5 million a year over 10 years

What's the difference between 1.5 billion and 5.5 million? About 1.5 billion.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Or in this case, the difference between 1.5B and 55M.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's for all intents and purposes the same size difference

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Also there may be state specific differences, but the transfer of his assets to his wife only is called a "fraudulent conveyance" and is still able to be obtained to the debtors. Also it was a dick move and requires more lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good, Break him, sell his company.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do it.

Tired of seeing these wingnuts get away with murder or just refuse to comply with court orders.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I think we have a ton more of that still to see

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

We should do this more. Liquidate bad wealthy people's assets and distribute it to those they have harmed.

Granted that hasn't happened here yet, but I hope it does.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Awe c'mon. He was just speeching! Isn't speeching protected? Don't unfree his speech, why you hate liberdom and freedity?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There’s a vote for this? Where do we register?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

In bankruptcy cases, a proposal is usually put forth by the end of the process that describes a plan with respect to how the debtor's assets will be liquidated and the funds distributed to creditors. This plan is put to a vote before the creditors and if the creditors accept the plan, then the bankruptcy court will order that the debtor's assets be liquidated in the manner described. When that's all done, the bankruptcy trustee will distribute the proceeds according to the plan to the creditors. Any remaining debts are cancelled.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well. Since it's for sandy Hook families, by going back and having kids killed.i guess :(

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

This gets me harder than any blue pill ever could dream of

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Bbbbbbb but, what about his freedom of speech!!!! I hope that he finds complete misery and hopelessness after the things he's done to those families.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Freedom of speech, freedom of consequence.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

after the things he's done to those families.

It's been a while since I read up on it, what things are you referring to?

Edit: hey, sorry for not being American and hearing about this stuff nonstop like Americans do. I'm truly sorry for asking a genuine question.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/12/alex-jones-sandy-hook-shooting/ (the first hit in my Google results):

Within hours of the shooting, Jones was telling his audience that it was staged as a pretext for confiscating guns. Within days, he began to suggest that grieving parents were actors. In the years that followed, he repeatedly said the massacre was faked.

The families testified during the trial that the lies spread by Jones led to harassment and threats by conspiracy theorists who have accused them of faking their own children’s deaths. They described feeling unsafe in their own homes and hypervigilant in public. Some of the families moved away from Newtown.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Can't wait for Knowledge Fight to cover this. Last episode largely involved AJ not being present in thebstudio due to "having to deal with some bankruptcy matters"

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

How does Alex Jones still have anything

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Dear Alex, Welcome to Waking Life !!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is like the best news day in ages.

(Sorry, I'm out of Rikers and need a refill. Two Rikers in an hour is just too many and I already used up the two I had.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like Deanna having a threesome with Will and Thomas.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same thing gonna happen to trump

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So I hear organs can usually fetch some good money... Just a random, totally unrelated thought I had.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Alex Jones is a raging alcoholic. Nobody's interested in those vodka marinaded organs. You can pick a random episode of the Knowledge Fight podcast and there's a damn near 50/50 chance the episode of Info Wars they're going to be tearing apart will culminate with a drunken, crying, screaming, Alex Jones temper tantrum.

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