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Summary

Democrats must reclaim their identity as the party of the working class to regain electoral strength.

Despite pro-labor policies under Biden, working-class voters feel disconnected, seeing Democrats as defenders of a failing system.

The party’s decline traces back to NAFTA and neoliberal economic policies that favored corporations over workers.

A generational effort to prioritize labor rights, fair wages, and economic security while addressing working-class frustrations are needed.

Without serious reform, Democrats will continue losing ground to populist alternatives.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 149 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

No shit. Now convince the democratic party leadership that winning elections is more important that kissing donor ass.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 69 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Now convince the democratic party leadership that serving their constituents is more important that kissing donor ass.

Convince them of that, and the winning elections thing will solve itself.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago

The problem is "kissing donor ass" is a euphemism for serving themselves.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

lol no it won’t. If I’m a Republican candidate, I can literally just say some culture war bullshit and still beat you in an election. Especially if you’re a woman or a minority.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Their goal is never to win elections. Their only goal is to prevent leftist movements and organization from gaining positions of power. To defend these status quo.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes they will gladly surrender to fascists to prevent socialists from getting a voice. This is the core issue

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Why are you using the future tense?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wouldn't be surprised if you are in a situation where it needs to get worse before it can get better. Vote 3rd party so heavily that it kills one of the major parties. All the people that didn't turn up vote for someone else?

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Don't convince national Democratic leadership of anything. They're too disconnected and don't care about any state they don't live in. Run for, and take control of state Democratic parties. Start telling national leadership your terms for your state supporting or working with them.

If enough people do that. They will change or become irrelevant.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Where can I sign up? Fuck it. I'll run for something.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What state are you in? I will absolutely find you the info.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The state party has some resources here on volunteering and when the state committee meets for elections and whatnot.

You can go here and look at your county party website as well, they'll have more info on how to get involved/run there. I looked at a few, most of them had a way of singing up to be a committee person.

Best of luck!

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Should spread the word. I'll help. We should have been doing this 20 years ago.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The only ones that get any level of power or influence within the party are ones that will defend the status quo. A system that's operating as designed cannot be reformed from within.

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[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Missouri. Not sure why you're being downvoted for asking that. We generally even in larger metropolitan areas have a ton of offices that no one other than Republicans run for. Which is part of why this is a red state. National Democrats don't even try to field candidates for anything but the biggest offices. Which often backfires denying them even those.

All states need to take back their leadership and a lot of the funding from the national party. The National Party should be nothing more than a body that coordinates the state parties. Not the actual leadership itself. That's part of the reason they seem so disconnected. Because they are

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

People downvote you for anything other than agreeing with their echo chamber message. Not that I even disagree with what this thread is saying. That’s just how it is

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

most of them dont want to ruffle the feathers of the same donors that gets the GOP elected, theres one too many DINOS in the dnc, just need to rout out those first, which is a first step

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The problem is they see large donors as the only path to victory as campaigns are expensive

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

The problem is that they see donations as the end goal and no longer give a shit if they lose.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They don't have to be. Present the people with policies that they want and the public will do all the work themselves.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The problem is getting the word out is expensive. Advertisement buys aren’t cheap.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And guess what the innovation in advertising this last cycle was? Cheap, to voters, text messages asking for funding. Sounds like a great time to dump the dead-weight corpos and win some elections

And what was the turnover on those buys? The fact that texts aren’t expensive doesn’t mean that is effective.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

A motivated voter seriously engaging with their social network is worth a lot more than an ad buy. The whole ad world is trying to smuggle their advertising as the genuine thoughts of a real person and politics is acting like it's still the age of Must See TV.

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[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

They do get the word out. The problem is that we don't believe them.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The best way is to bring single payer health care.

Every other G7 nation has it

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They tried to do that the moment they had senate supermajority with caucusing ind over a decade ago, but caucusing ind Joe Lieberman voted against it and the GOP filibustered it in 2010.

They haven't even had more than 50 since like 2013, they only had bare minimum to select majority leader in 2021 because of caucusing independents and VP tiebreaker.

If you want single payer then the only way to get that is not to change the DNC, it's to convince millions more people to vote for them or to remove Republicans.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

ACA was never going to be single payer. Lieberman played the bad guy to kill the public option, but it was pretty obvious it was only there to be bargained out in the first place.

Single payer, on the other hand, was never even considered to be an option.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They voted on singlepayer and it lost by Independent Joe Liebermans vote.

You cannot blame that on the DNC.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They have never once voted on single payer.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Then I guess Barrack Obama and thousands of protestors all halucinated it back in December 2009

Even Nancy Pelosi, who passed the bill in the house with 218 votes, has multiple comments about it being removed in the Senate.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Its effectively single payer in that private insurance cannot compete with it.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It is nothing at all like single payer. At best it's a slightly less shitty insurance.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Here I thought "providing the better option in a binary race" would be enough; but snowflake voters need individual attention?

"Here. We'll keep a traitorous felon out of office because that's the choice" and people still preferred the felon.

I think we need to start by apologizing to the Democrats for being stupid. Not just "oops I voted wrong" stupid, but "oops I voted for the Russian agent who's raped everything he touches and sold every secret he probably touched too, and is now oddly hellbent on destroying a country as a favour to Russia" stupid.

That's a lotta stupid.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"We're second worst and you will be voting for us no matter what we do" was going to fail eventually, and you were fools to keep doing it.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like I have to cook so many times on this app.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Your hostage situation electioneering is the past, electoral reform is the future.

We will not be abused by people like you any longer. We will be free to vote how we wish. The people will have many options to choose from, and the democrats will have to represent people to earn their votes or be tossed into the garbage can alongside the republicans.

More democracy is the way forward, not this domestic assault you try to pass off as representation.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You will NEVER get electoral reform from republicans. You will get electoral dismantling.

The hostage situation is ongoing and you're asking for every hostage to die.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

Winning elections by checks notes demanding voters apologize for not voting for you.

Brilliant.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

They’re downvoting you, but you’re right. One day they’ll grow out of this communist shit

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Convince the voters to stop falling for culture war bullshit then

[–] WagyuSneakers@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Losing is more expensive