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I say fuck people like this. And if you are people like this, then fuck you too.
Public space is for public, not just your kids. If you let your kids run wild, then you are sacrificing other people's freedom.
Also, this is how entitled little bitches are created. Do you want your kid to be an entitled little bitch?
I had a glorious moment at a restaurant with my extended family where there was a large group with kids at the next table letting them run riot. The parents were all nursing huge glasses of white wine and chatting away while the kids bothered other diners, waiters, etc.
At the end of the meal, after paying the bill, my uncle went over to the parents and told them their kids had ruined our meal. One of the parents tried to protest that he'd obviously never had kids. He responds, "I raised 3 kids and none of them ever behaved as badly as yours have done this afternoon." Mic drop; my party left.
My hero!
It was British high drama
You seem to be implying that you are somehow more entitled to that public space than kids. Sounds like something an entitled little bitch would say. Are you an entitled little bitch? Public space is for the public, ALL the public. If let your own hangups lead you to bullying the most naive and impressionable of us, then you are sacrificing other people's freedom. And if you are people like this then I say, "fuck you too". The social contract of public space doesn't entitled you to be unbothered by other people.
To be clear I am in no way excusing parents that do not actually parent their children, especially in public. However the logic of the above comment is just a bunch of "get off my lawn" anti-social ME generation boomer energy. Also, kind of telling that the parent commenter just doesn't see the parallels between their entitled attitude and everyone else's entitlement. It's a public space, if you can't be compassionate, you don't deserve it any more than anyone else.
You must be one of those entitled parents, or people who get offended on behalf of others. Either way, I have nothing to say to you.
It's also how kidnappings happen. It's stupid.
I’m on the fence. It’s a pretty subjective topic no? Public spaces will always have conflict due to many people have many preferences.
I teach kids, and a lesson I have with them is on "context".
The game of tag, is it good or bad?
Well, on the playground it is good, really fun actually!
But in music class or at the library? It's really bad.
The game didn't change, the context did. Same goes with parenting imo. In fact I'd go so far as to say that teaching your kids to be considerate of the spaces they are in is a good thing.
I grew up with my mom telling us to keep our hands behind our back when going into an antique store or to be polite at the dinner table, and I was always invited to dinners and nice places by my friends parents because they knew I'd behave.
Going off of this, If you never give your kids the chance to exist independently in public spaces (and appropriately discipline them/ teach them) they'll grow up without really learning this well.
I can't believe how many kids (high school) these days will call their parents to help them out of any uncertain task in a public space rather than try to figure it out on their own.
Recent example was I was taking a kid to the customer service desk on a trip I was chaperoning because they forgot their pass, and they were so lost about what to do and were calling their parents for help. I had to tell them relax, we'll just explain the problem to the person at the desk and see what they say. And he could barely do that.
I imagine that if you as a kid had the freedom to explore museums and stuff semi-independently as a 10 year old but also under supervision, they would have so much more confidence in public spaces on their own later.
There is a difference between disciplining and helicoptering.
I guess including conflict of people trying to take your kids and ransom them.