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I don't really care that much either way for speed cameras. They work in a very limited fashion, but they punish the poor the most, and the money goes to cops.
At the end of the day speed cameras are a solution to a problem that doesn't need to exist. We are failing to use technology available to us for basically no reason - we already know how to slow people and calm traffic without any kind of economic/punitive incentive.
Hey I got a ticket for going 57 in a school zone where the posted limit is 50, except the road only borders the far end of the school yard at the tip of its soccer field, with no way for students to exit, and the road itself is 4 lanes and should really have a speed limit of 60, and it was Sunday... Easter Sunday to be precise, so it was literally a school zone surrounded by days off.
Imagine if I hadn't been caught! I'm a Menace II Society, for sure.
Where do you live with a 50km/h school zone? That is psychotic.
I don't know about the guy you are asking, but I have multiple school zones with a 50kph limit in my area as well.
The school zones in my area are 30kph, and a lot of people find that excessive and want it slower, so 50 is wild to me.
I believe rural school zones are sometimes 50km/h. In context the non-school zone speed limit is usually 80km/h or more, often with visibility from one horizon to the other and a sprawling parking lot, it's not quite the same as a congested urban school with a driveway big enough to fit a single bus and dozens of cars parked along the curb.
Even when I lived in rural areas, the zones were 30kph where I am from. Parks, and playgrounds, are also generally included.
They punish people who speed the most. If you make the needle on your dash point to the number that is posted on the road signs, you don't get a ticket.
I’ve gotten a ticket for going 1 over on a downhill. If you think that’s reasonable, you’re likely one of the idiots who created these things.
Citation needed. They don't set them at 1 over because it's hard to prove they are that accurate, your speedo also only has to be +/-3% in Ontario.
Demands citation. Makes claim. Leaves no citation. Stay classy, San Diego.
Does being poor compel people to speed or something?
The problem is two-fold: one is that our roads are designed to encourage bad driving behaviour, and drivers feel entitled to drive in a way that's convenient (but not safe).
Have you ever tried to get traffic calming measures implemented in a community, especially around school zones? It's excruciatingly difficult, and a few complaints from NIMBYs will have those measures removed, wasting taxpayer money and not solving any problems.
It's infuriating that low powered micromobility devices like e-scooters are so severely restricted, but multi-ton weapons can be operated with almost no enforcement or consequences.
No, but $100+ to a poor person could be the difference between literal life and death.
$100+ to someone well off or rich is nothing but pocket change.
The solution to this is sliding scale fines. The better off you are the more you get fined.
Why should a poor person have to spend 90% of their money on a fine when a "rich" person only has to spend 0.0009% for the exact same infraction.
Poor people generally don't own cars, and if you can afford to own a personal vehicle, you can afford to pay for driving like an asshole in one.
What a strange disconnected reality you live in.
That or you're just a troll.
Either way im blocking your dumbass.
You know that you can drive a car you don't own right? And not every person who is ticketed is driving like an asshole. I got a 100 dollar ticket for driving 57 in what was normally a 50 km zone, but there was brand new signage up that I had literally 4 seconds to read (I went back and timed it) that gave: months of the year, days of the week, and hours of the day that the new 40 km/h speed limit was enforced. But because I can't read at the speed of light while driving down the road, bam, ticket.
You know it costs money to gas, maintain, insure, and/or rent a car right?
Fact of the matter is you were speeding before they adjusted the sign, it is your responsibility as a driver to obey all posted signage, and if you cannot abide by the rules of the road as well as be capable of reading and responding to signage I do not believe you should be allowed to drive because you are a risk to everyone around you.
You deserved that ticket, and I wish they had suspended your license until you were retested.
LOL, a suspended licence for going 7 kms over the regular speed limit. Yeah, you're a rational person alright, and I should take any argument you have seriously. Ok.
And you know that you don't have to gas, maintain, insure or rent a car that you borrow from a friend of family member, right?
Going 7 over the regular limit does not make me a danger to society you absolute lunatic, and it is the responsibility of the government to make sure that signage is CLEAR and READABLE to people on the road.
Have a nice day.
You were going 17 over the posted limit, as per your story, and weren't aware enough to know about it.
You shouldn't have a license.
Take care.
57-50=17? Did you attend school in America, or something? ChatGPT spit that answer out for you?
The speed limit was 40, as per the story.
It is really funny to me that you insult my level of education while failing at solving a word problem though, so thank you for that.
Reading comprehension ain't your strong suit, eh bud?
Thanks for another one. Keep it going DJ Khaled.
I'm not even OP. You're something, kiddo.
I know you aren't. Yet you are still dying ignorantly on this hill. Again, thanks for the laugh sweetums. I won't waste further time with you, have a good one snookiepoo.
I was going 7 over the limit as per my story, a great big 50km/h hour sign where 40 km/h was only enforced certain hours of the day, certain days of the week, certain months of the year, all of which I was expected to read within literal seconds, and didn't slow down enough in time.
Any traffic enforcement officer would literally laugh in your face if you told them I shouldn't have a license. Grow a brain. This will be my last post. Jesus Christ you are such a fucking moron.
It doesn't help if this was a long time ago, but you could contest the ticket with the information you gathered.
I know someone who got a ticket but the sign was obscured by a tree branch. After contesting the ticket, the ticket was dropped and the signage was fixed
Sure, but nobody is compelling someone to break traffic laws. Someone who can't afford a fine will probably drive way more cautiously.
But very few poor people can even afford a car these days, so this doesn't seem like a real concern.
I do agree with that. And more than that, the consequences should include lost time. Imagine some rich asshole who has to do 40 hours of community service. They'd look like a total ass in front of their boss or employees.