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[–] [email protected] 135 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

i voted for everything you are doing!

That's right, you did. Including this. Put on the big girl pants and own your fuckup, but know you won't be forgiven. Ever.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There is a path to redemption, but she's not on it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The path to redemption starts in Nuremberg

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There was that one lady who was present at the Capitol on J6 (I think she was arrested and convicted?) who has since publicly recognized her error, and (as I recall) refused the blanket pardon, because she admits that what went on there was criminal.

That lady is fine by me. She is the singular example of someone actually on the path to redemption that I am aware of.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

She only refused it because her sentence was fucking community service

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Instructions unclear. Ended up on a race track.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't see myself having an ounce of hope or patriotism for this country again if the primary actors in all this treasonous chaos aren't imprisoned for life or executed at some point.

So, basically, I'm not expecting to ever really give a shit about this country again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imprisoned for life means that the next spineless president will set them free and pardon them in the name of "peace".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Imprisoned for life on the surface of the sun.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Put on the big girl pants and own your fuckup

We play this game every four years. New President, new crisis, new media cycle of people screaming "This is only happening because you voted for the Other Guy!" Congress and the White House change hands, and then we do it all again.

Nobody seems to want to confront the fact that these kids were camped in the middle of a fucking flood plain at the start of Hurricane Season. Or that the constant cuts to state agencies and monitoring services - cuts that have been ongoing since the Nixon Era, under virtually every administration - have degraded our ability to prevent these kinds of tragedies well past the point of a single administration tinkering around the edges of policy.

We all just want to screw our eyes shut and say "Your kids deserved to die because you voted wrong", which is an fucking insane thing to believe and exactly the kind of magical thinking that got us to this point.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We play this game every four years. New President, new crisis, new media cycle

If you really believe that all this (waves hand around) is business as usual you've been living under a bigger rock and/or are in deeper denial than OOP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you’ve been living under a bigger rock

Not a rock. Iraq.

Identical unitary executive. Identical look-the-other-way SCOTUS. Identical pliant media. Torture of dissidents. Police disappearing people. Purges of opposition from the bureaucracy. Right wing militias doing domestic terrorism. Ecological disasters going unreported. Leftists getting blamed for making things worse. Liberals passively green lighting fascism. Bubble economy with jobless growth. People on the Internet telling you this is totally different than Reagan.

It's happening again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Not a rock. Iraq.

moving goalposts

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Despite the cuts and everything, they were still warned of the potential of floods. The camp chose to ignore it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

This isn’t the same game y’all have been playing every four years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We all just want to screw our eyes shut and say “Your kids deserved to die because you voted wrong”, which is an fucking insane thing to believe and exactly the kind of magical thinking that got us to this point.

That's the worst part of it all. It is the kids who die, who had no say in the matter, no those who voted.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The kids died because they (their Republican parents) voted wrong. The kids died because they didn't want to spend the money Biden gave them for an alert system on an actual alert system, and instead gave it to the sheriff. The kids died because of Republican cuts to FEMA call centers. The kids died because of profit-seeking psychopaths put the bare minimum (of even that) of cell service in that area. They died because we've spent the last 30 years shooting down any kind of climate action legislation.

Those kids died because of Republicans. Full stop.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The kids died because they (their Republican parents) voted wrong.

The idea that voting Harris in 2024 somehow insulated you from a natural disaster is the worst kind of magical thinking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The idea that somehow voting for republicans at the federal, state and local level for the last 30 years would insulate you from the harm they have done to the country is the actual worst kind of magical thinking.

Edit : but yeah, if Harris has won, FEMA wouldn't have been gutted, the NWS wouldn't have been gutted. These people would have gotten better weather data, and gotten it earlier, and our emergency services would have been on site faster and with more resources, which directly would have saved lives. Nothing fucking magical about that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

if Harris has won, FEMA wouldn’t have been gutted

FEMA forced to restrict disaster spending because of low funds

~ 08/30/2023

The Biden administration has stopped helping states rebuild from past disasters with money from the federal government’s main emergency fund, which is nearing depletion from dozens of storms and wildfires this year.

This has been an ongoing budgetary fight between deficit hawks (of which Biden proudly counted himself a member going back 40 fucking years) and social welfare advocates. Trump took the next big leap in a parade march of staffing reductions and funding cuts. But this has been an ongoing mismanagement since the privatization and downsizing wave that Reagan imposed in the 1980s.

If Harris had won an election that she lost in a landslide, she'd still have to contend with a Congress stuffed with deficit reactionaries on both sides of the aisle. She'd have whined about liberals not handing her Senate Supermajority and then signed whatever John Thune and Mike Johnson put on her desk, just like Biden did.

Singling out scapegoats for a systemic nationwide ideological failure - particularly when they are the weakest and most vulnerable members of society - is the exact same brainworms bullshit that gets people like Trump elected President to begin with.

Might as well blame the flooding on illegal immigration next.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Complaining about Biden's handling of FEMA and comparing it to Trump's is like equating a dumpster fire to an atomic weapon because they both burn stuff. The fact you are even presenting that as an argument shows how disingenuous your position is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Complaining about Biden’s handling of FEMA

This has been a degradation of service spanning half a dozen administrations over the course of decades. It is being driven by corporate mass media's fixation on domestic fiscal austerity.

This decline in public service is not unique to Biden or even to the United States.

The fact you are even presenting that

You need to put down your Great Man view of history and recognize the tidal social currents that got us here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5430469/faq-fema-elimination

That article was written just a few weeks before those Texas floods.

You need to put down your Great Man view of history and recognize the tidal social currents that got us here.

I don't need to do shit. You need to re-read my comments and understand that there is a huge scale of difference between "not getting any more funding because of Republican legislators" and "actively cutting and shutting down a department that millions of Americans rely on every year to keep them from starving or becoming homeless".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t need to do shit

Hilary 2016

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I guess we doin' non-sequiturs now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Their Republican governor and their Republican president gutted their flood warning staff, recently. If they'd received a flood warning they might have left the flat land next to the river and they might not be dead.

So no, Harris wouldn't have stopped the flood, but she wouldn't have stopped the flood warning either.

(Also extreme weather events are significantly more frequent due to climate change, and resisting efforts to reduce climate change has been Republican policy for decades.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So no, Harris wouldn’t have stopped the flood, but she wouldn’t have stopped the flood warning either.

This woman changing her vote would have had no effect on the outcome. Hell, the entire state flipping blue would not have changed the results.

Also extreme weather events are significantly more frequent due to climate change

Climate Change doesn't stop and start with the changing of the US white house. Neither have individual administrations - even the "best" ones - curbed emissions sufficient to keep us under the 1.5C mark.

You'd be more reasonable blaming the flooding on Bush or Obama than Trump or Biden. Hell, you'd be more reasonable blaming Saudi Arabia or China. Even then, you're getting into "Gays Caused Katrina" territory when you try to blame individual natural disasters on long term environmental trends.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dude, I put it in brackets for a reason.

Also, your logic of "one vote wouldn't change the outcome" doesn't excuse her for voting for the shitpants nastiest, stupidest, most deceitful, blazen rapist daughter-lusting racist fraudster you could possibly imagine.

He's a complete piece of shit who shits all over the constitution and shits all over the American people, and there aren't any good excuses for her allowing him in the Whitehouse again. She is part of the decision to enable this demolition of everything helpful or useful in the USA. Stop excusing it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also, your logic of “one vote wouldn’t change the outcome” doesn’t excuse her

"Your kid deserves to die because you voted wrong" is biblically delusional. At this point, you're no better than the freaks doing selfies in front of Alligator Alcatraz.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Her kid didn't die and I wouldn't wish that on her, but it's another straw man and another attempt by you to excuse bad voters from the bad consequences of their bad actions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Her kid didn’t die and I wouldn’t wish that on her

The entire context of the post is her bemoaning the deaths from the flooding.

it’s another straw man

It's people on the internet laughing up their sleeves at a bunch of dead children.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Your straw men just with me so far, just in the last hour:

  • One vote would have changed the presidency
  • One state would have changed the presidency
  • Trump and/or Biden caused the flood
  • Climate change stops and starts with the changes in the Whitehouse
  • Individual weather disasters are the same as long term climate change
  • This woman's voting record is so heinous that she deserves her children to die

I said nothing like any of those things. You invented them all.

I did say that she is responsible for her heinous voting record and that you shouldn't excuse it. I did say that she is responsible for not just voting against the rapist in chief and the chum of Epstein that she's so shocked isn't releasing the Epstein files, but voting for him.

How about engaging with something that I actually said for once?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stop virtue signaling. If dead kids remove fascists, then their deaths weren’t in vain. Otherwise, zero. Fucks. Given.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, but this is ambiguous and I need clarification: Dead Texan kids or dead Palestinian ones? Which dead kids are you exchanging for this putative "fascist-free" vision where your cost to entry is an adjustment to your personal empathy dial?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Both.

Texan kids: See Gov. Abbott denying funds for the systems. And now trying to dodge blame. Not to mention, Texas routinely is anti children.

Palestinian kids: See Abandon Harris and the leftists that either voted Jill Stein or sat out in protests.

And also when I mean if dead kids leads to removal of fascists, I mean a sweeping removal of Trump and down. That included Vance, Massey, MTG, blowjob Boebert, Desantis, Huckabee, Abbott, Bondi, Noem, and so on. If this eventually makes America wake up and remove them ALL then the deaths were not in vain.

So to answer your question, both.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Tough bargain, but at least it's not playing favorites, and is at least a sober, realistic take.