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[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Who said anything about 'fuck you I got mine?'

First of all Canada already has a TON of social supports for anyone who is in need. We have Employment Insurance if you lose your job. We have Old Age Security and Canada Pension Plan for seniors. We have Child Tax Credits for parents and especially single parents. We have the GST credit to give back taxes to low income earners. We have the Canada Workers Benefit. We have the Canada Disability Benefit. We have the Assured Income for Severely Handicapped. We have disability pensions. We have Universal Pharmacare for prescription drugs. We have housing benefits/social housing programs. We have the Canadian Dental Benefit. We have student aid. There are free food banks in every city. And there are emergency funds available for things like rent/damage deposits on an emergency basis from every province through various community agencies, charities, and non-profit organizations.

So WHY do we need UBI on top of all that? If you need help in Canada, you CAN find it. Its already here.

Source: I founded a charity for street kids in one of our major cities thats been operating for 33 years. There is a TON of support out there. The fact is that a LOT of the people on the street know how to use and abuse the system and they dont WANT to get out of it because its what they grew up in and what they are accustomed to. I speak from years of experience.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

You wouldn't get UBI "on top of all that".

You'd get it instead of all that.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

First of all, UBI would be simpler as it's given to everyone, and replaces a lot of other subsidies. That makes bureaucracy simpler, which means less personnel costs, and less error-prone.

Secondly, the subsidies until now have been add-ons to an otherwise healthy labor market. That's no longer the case: the labor market is getting darker year by year, and it's only a matter of time till subsidies will not be an add-on anymore, but the main source of income.

Thirdly, giving UBI is fairer than, say, unemployment money. If you give out money to unemployed people, you favor people not working, and that's not what you want. By giving UBI to everyone, people who receive subsidies still have an incentive to work as much as they can.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Because, as the research found, it improves health, housing stability, and social relationships? There shouldn't be any need for charity, IMO. The patchwork of different social programs have tons of cracks for people to fall through if they don't meet all the specific requirements. I'm sure if offered guaranteed and safe housing, no strings attached, most of the people on the streets would take it, and their lives and society would be better for it.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

It boggles my mind how some people would fight against getting money each month.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Democracy is the idea that government receives its power and authority from the general public, not a king, god, or other source. The government utilizes the political authority that we provide them to perform a wide variety of essential services to its taxpayer customers.

We invest our political authority in the government. The political authority is what allows the government to provide and charge for those services. We are investors; shareholders. We are owed a return on our investment.

UBI is the dividend owed to us for our investment.

Those various charitable programs and services you described? Most of those would be replaced by UBI.

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