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With a electoral system like Ranked Choice voting, people would feel safe to vote for whomsoever they wish, as their vote would still be counted even if their preference didn’t win.

Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.

Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.

Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Republicans LOVE first past the post voting. Just sbsolutely adore it. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans want?

More political parties means a higher percentage of the population is represented by their choices in the voting booth. More people involved in the electoral process, more people engaged.

Its a win win win all around for not just the people, but also for the democratic party. More people voting means more democratic votes. The numbers dont lie. So what’s the hold up blue states?

Some day we will be able to vote for who best represents our interests. We won’t need to grovel on our knees, begging for representationin government. We won’t need to wait for the Republican party to stop existing.

We can do it right now. We don't have to get over a damn thing. If anyone needs to get over themselves, it would be the democrats who assume they are the only way forward.

Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.

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[–] [email protected] 199 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Please go away, get out of public life and stop "helping."

Being a dick to people is not going to get them to vote your way. Same with the 'deplorables' comment. I agreed with her on it, but it was a stupid thing to say in an election.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, it’s like she took notes from her husband, but isn’t Smooth Willy enough to pull it off. I think it’s because deep down, she is just a bitch.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

South Park said it best: "my wife is a crazy bitch."

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I think the deplorables comment would have been fine if they did try to cowardly walk it back immediately after in the typical miquetoast, 'cater to everyone' Democratic fashion.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

"Cater to everyone but the left"

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I’m still convinced that only person insufferable enough to lose to Donald fucking Trump in 2016 was Hillary Clinton.

You can hate it all you want but in some level it’s a popularity contest and she is utterly utterly unlikeable.

Her smarmy q&a with those millennials was a fucking PR nightmare.

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[–] [email protected] 154 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hilary propped up Trump. Never forget that. The political turmoil we are currently in is directly because or her. Fuck her and the DNC

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (11 children)

She got her second choice in 2016, like all centrists did.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I don't think it's fair to put Trump all on her. If we were to ask anyone 10 years ago if someone like Trump could win the presidency we all would have laughed. No surprise they tried to prop up an opposing candidate they thought was bad.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

I don’t think it’s fair to put Trump all on her

Why not? Her supporters blame Trump on anyone who ever thought about voting for Sanders in the primaries, regardless of who they voted for in the general, and have for nearly 8 years now.

Sanders campaigned for her in states she ignored because they were full of worthless flyover hayseeds who were beneath her. Her campaign didn't seem to understand how the electoral college functions.

Her campaign WANTED to go up against Trump because they were unforgivably stupid enough to think that Republicans would be less energized by a charismatic con man than by Jeb Bush, Republicans' presumptive frontrunner that no one wanted.

Clinton earned her loss multiple times over.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We literally had Trump instead of Bernie because she couldn't get over herself.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago

Neolibs would rather see a descent into fascism than a true progressive agenda because billionaires will still thrive under the former. Sure, there's the whole die roll about who gets caught up in the purges, but a real progressive administration could lead to less free money for them. The DNC would rather hand the reigns to the GOP while it sorts out the problem of people wanting a candidate like Bernie.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Two things can be true at the same time.

  1. She is a target of mysgonstic flavored consisparcy theories.

  2. She truly is unlikeable with half measure policies while being woefully out of touch with the average person.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  1. She is / was 100x more qualified than Trump.

  2. American voters are idiots.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's easy to be more qualified than totally unqualified. She was the obvious choice, but her total lack of charisma to voters destroyed that.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The worst part is that more people voted for her, just not where it counts because she couldn't be bothered to campaign there

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago

As the one and only person to ever lose to Trump, ya might want to sit this one out.

Hillary has value as a lightning rod for right-wing hatred. All she has to do is show her face and the rednecks will lose their mind. She should be talking about things like Benghazi or emails - troll the trumpanzees with shit they won't be able to resist, and keep em off the rest of the blue team's back.

Her chiming in on pretty much any other topic just weighs it down with per perceived baggage.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hillary Clinton is irrelevant, and should get over herself.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

She should go hang out with her buddy Henry Kissinger, whatever he's up to these days.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Rich old bat, nobody cares; she might not be first for the guillotine but she's definitely in the queue.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago

She really just needs to get over herself and shut the fuck up. She lost to Trump. Why the fuck would anyone listen to her on how to beat him?

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago

shut the fuck up forever hillary

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago

She needs to learn to shut the fuck up, because she doesn't help.

This is like telling your SO to 'just calm down' when they're really angry about something.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago

We DEFINITELY don't need her help with any elections.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like "basket of deplorables," she's not wrong. She just shouldn't be saying it because it can only really hurt things

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Right message, very much the wrong messenger. Like it or not, Hillary, a significant number of people in this country despise you. I don't think that's at all fair, but them's the breaks. You're not helping.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (34 children)

"Shut up, you're voting for who we want you to vote for because we say so" is never the right message. Centrists will never think of another one.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, yes, entitlement, that’ll resonate with disaffected voters.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

She's saying what every lemmy Centrist has been saying, only with less condescension and she managed to say it without calling anyone a Russian.

I'm surprised she's getting so much hate. Maybe she's not being entitled enough and centrists perceive her as being to their left.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Hillary was the only candidate unlikeable enough to lose to Trump. She should stick that in her pipe and smoke it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus read a fuckin room, woman.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That’s A real hoot coming from the woman who gave us president Donald Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Alternative headline: Hillary Clinton hasn't learned her lesson that she is tone deaf and should stay the fuck out of politics.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Somehow I don’t think insulting people is going to get them to want to participate in your shit show

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (11 children)

If she’s jaded about the whole thing, can’t say I blame her. If the dems had pushed to get rid of the stupid electoral college after Gore’s “loss” she might have been president.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

To be fair, I don't think she would have made a good president even if the electoral college didn't exist. She would have been better than Trump but that's not saying much, because a shit sandwich is better than Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a middle aged millennial (how the hell did that happen?) I am so proud of this comment section.

The two powers with a death grip on our society need to (a) let that shit go and (b) fix our voting system before that society breaks.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

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