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At a recent all-hands meeting, Google search head Prabhakar Raghavan told employees that the world is changing and they have to adjust.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Things definitely changed. 15-20 years ago you actually got good search results instead of unusable crap we get today.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

OTOH 20 years ago half of the sites on the internet were not yet made of copy-pasta SEO optimized copies or stolen content designed to get search engine clicks. Maybe the enshitification of the web itself has something to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I remember it already was, but everybody knew it was, so search engines were the brute force approach. The intelligent way was to use web directories and to ask friends.

The enshittification of the web is just one aspect of the enshittification of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

True their competition is actually getting much better whereas they just throw BS at you nowadays. It's unfortunate but Google is no longer my go-to for searching.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

The issue is that there are 1000 spam sites heavily optimized specifically to exploit Google's algorithm for every legitimate site. Merely by not being the primary focus of SEO, alternatives have a pretty hefty advantage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i wonder what will replace it.. maybe some way of AI to figure out which websites are deemed good in the eyes of actual human users, and then human users opting into sharing such score charts with each other?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Gen AI is a net negative for the moment, since the deluge of generated low-quality content outweighs convenience of topical results generated by LLMs with natural language queries.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Used to get about 200+ pages of search results. Now it's about 30 actual results and half of them are fake / malicious / useless. Google as a company was once an innovator, but is now mostly a barrier to any kind of progress or improvement.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It's like a dead tree. The material and volume is still there, but it's dead anyways.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wearing a hoodie with the words “We use Math” on the front, Google search boss Prabhakar Raghavan had an important message for employees at an all-hands meeting last month. But he first wanted them to settle in and get comfortable.

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Raghavan said Google’s digital ad business had become “the envy of the world.” He noted that over the last three years, annual revenue has grown by more than $100 billion, exceeding Starbucks, Mazda and TikTok combined.

Does this mean you'll be using math to pay them more for producing more? (have to add /s)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

I feel like anyone who envies an advertising business should probably be avoided, lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Mazda is such a weird name to drop there. They must have started with Starbucks and tiktok and had to find a third company that made the total come in just under their number.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

He's got a 'we use pizza' hat for them

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Funny running across this article after reading https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

Spoiler: the author does not have a high opinion of Raghavan.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

that's for that link.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Came here to post it too. That article was savage, and I believe it.

https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Until we have a world that recognises that the internet is now a right and governments should be subsidising search and other services so that they don't turn into useless ad delivery systems - I'm ok paying for Kagi.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Coming from the same guy who killed Google search according to this article.

Coincidentally just published yesterday....

Which contains an almost identical quote from Nick Fox (Google VP of search in 2019)

Fox added that all three of them were responsible for search, that search was “the revenue engine of the company,” and that bartering with the ads and finance teams was potentially “the new reality of their jobs.”

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's so bad that I actively try to avoid certain top sites in google search results, especially when I am searching for review on product

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There are uBlock Origin filters that exist purely to filter out certain SEO spam sites from search results. I've been using this one to filter out sites that basically copy/paste answers from popular dev sites that just completely clutter Google search results. I used to have one that included things like W3 Schools and Quora but I can't find it anymore, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Kagi has domain filtering built in

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I only use maps and youtube from google nowadays. The rest are shit

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

YouTube is shit too, they're just the only game in town

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I'm worried that Maps will be hit by the enshittification next. We need a good quality maps alternative. OpenStreetMap seems ok, but it lacks a few features, including trip planning.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

How many people did they just layoff?

Like, your market cap is going up. Sorry. You can eat a bag of dicks.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

remember all those adorable puff piece articles about the adult playgrounds for google employees?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

They still exist at some companies, they’re just a lot less common than they used to be.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

They are just trying to squeeze the last few drops out of it. Its the endgame now. The new yahoo!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Sounds like somebody needs a short tenure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I like Gemini. It’s easily the best AI for rewriting things for social media that reflects my intent while sounding somewhat like me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Reads like Irrelevant spam

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok…just saying, they may be fretting about competition, particularly in the AI business, and I’m just sharing 2 cents about what they’re doing. It really is better than ChatGPT/Co-pilot for this kind of thing imo.

But people can’t have opinions without others getting rude or butthurt about something. 🤣

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now you sound like a shill and a petulant child. Congrats?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

How dare you call me a child—

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Google now: Finding good food on Indian streets.