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[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 96 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You chose to buy it at that price. What does it matter what the original price was or how much the seller made? You thought the price was fair, had the choice to not buy it or buy it somewhere else.

This isn't like scalpers buying up items, creating artificial scarcity and driving up prices for profit. This is just plain old capitalism.

Presumably the price also included shipping and handling fees, since you bought it online. So in the end the seller probably made just a couple of quid, he deserves to get paid for what he does no?

[–] ElCanut@jlai.lu 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

12£ is just the book, no shipping included.

Making a X10 markup on something you bought from a charity is infuriating imo

And sorry for finding basic capitalism infuriating.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

0.0£ at your local library.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Ah yes, libraries. Those mega buildings with every book on Earth inside...

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

The picture shows ISBN 9781784708276

I search this to get the title: "Entangled Life - How Fungi Make Our Worlds, Change Our Minds and Shape Our Futures"

I see £, so I'm going to assume it's the UK. I picked Manchester as a city to search.

I search the book.

Seven 2021 versions, three 2020 versions, and audio book are available.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Which means even if it's not available in OPs local library they could go to their library and get it on an interlibrary loan.

[–] prayer@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

Based and librarypilled

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[–] pacmondo@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago

You're right. Since they don't have every book ever written, why bother even looking?

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Lol.

Oh, yes let's let perfection be the enemy of good.

It's a rare thing I can't get from my Library (mostly music and some movies), but anything educational and it's there.

I regularly check out DVD collections from The Teaching Company of university courses - I'm talking Harvard, Columbia, etc. Currently have History of Western Civilization on deck for ripping. It's 40 hours of lectures, the DVD collection would cost $1500 on the open market.

It's one of dozens I've ripped for my own use, and converted to MP3 to listen when at gym or in the car.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do your libraries not have a system to request books from other libraries? Not trying to be a jerk, I just have looked for some obscure things before and sometimes they had to be requested from other libraries.

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[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The seller took the time and gas to go and get books from oxfam so that you could have it shipped to your house

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If the shipping is more than 99p it would have been cheaper for you to buy it new.

https://www.waterstones.com/book/entangled-life/merlin-sheldrake/9781784708276

I can also see multiple options for second hand between £5-£7.

Or as others have said, there's the library.

It was your choice to pay near original price + shipping for second hand

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It is tacky to leave the sticker on there with the lower price, but you are the one who paid 12£. How does it matter what they paid? If they search for books to resell at a profit, that's time spent, risk taken, and money earned.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So you're annoyed that someone (who took the time to go to a charity shop, list the book online, and ship it to you) charged you the RRP for the book, that you didn't have to buy from them?

I hope you have the same kind of energy for when mega-corporations charge anything from tens to thousands of pounds for products that often cost single pounds or even pennies to manufacture (due to underpaying for labour and materials that were in turn manufactured by underpaid labour as well), and the snowballing impact they have on the rest of the economy (by pricing out smaller companies, monopolising industries, avoiding tax, and so on).

The person you bought this from likely works for themsleves, trolling charity shops all day for bargains, and almost certainly pays tax on their income. I'm as anti-capitalist as they get, but even I can't take issue with this. If they had charged you more than the RRP, sure, that'd pushing it, but if you didn't want to pay full price, you should have spent your own time looking for the bargain. ¯\(ツ)

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Rofl. Imagine being mildly infuriated that someone marked up a bargain bin purchase by $10 to cover their time and effort to make it available to you to buy from the comfort of your home.

Why don't you spend your own day rummaging through thrift stores for it next time?

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We shit on 'upselling' all the time. If you cleaned those pages, pressed them back and touched up the spine of the book, sure. But I'd be annoyed too if there was a 500% markup on a resale of used material

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You see 500% markup.

I see 10 pounds for the time and effort to shop around for bargains, then storing your haul, list the items online, and the cost of the other dozens of books that never sell, and then time and effort to package and ship, and whatever customer service along the way.

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[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It always sucks to know you paid more than the seller did - but that just means Oxfam undervalued the book.

Having worked in one, charity shops tend to have a habit of either really undervaluing or overvaluing their donated goods - cause the people who actually set the prices mostly just guess based on looks and nothing more. Only if an item looks expensive will they do any research, and even then never really enough.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Our local shop has a database of values.

Granted, it's not perfect, but I would assume since they have one it's a publicly traded commodity (that is someone maintains a DB and sells it to such organizations).

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

With the rise of ebay thrift resalers, I feel like all the charity/thrift stores around me price rather aggressively.

[–] ealoe@ani.social 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok, don't buy it online then go get it from the thrift store yourself. Oh that takes valuable time and effort? Guess that's why it was marked up, peoples' time is worth money.

[–] ElCanut@jlai.lu 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because I live in another country, a non English speaking one, so there's zero chance that thud book will make it to my country thrift store

[–] ealoe@ani.social 28 points 10 months ago

My case rests, the seller of the book provided you a valuable service then by making a product available to you that you otherwise wouldn't be able to get, and you're mad that they made a little money for their time?

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago

You should definitely spend time trawling through Oxfam shops for books, if this annoys you.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

A used book for 12£ is maybe 8€ more than I normally spent on used books.

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most book sellers on the Internet roam around, buy used books, cut them to make them look new and then sell it as new.

[–] jonkenator@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Cut them? What does that man?

[–] bonn2@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

They take a bit off the edges, which, when done right, can make them look new at a first glance

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago

Using a paper cutter, aligning the worn pages along the outside edge of the book into a nice looking rectangle

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Costs money and time to package and ship stuff. They should've at least removed the sticker though.

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Takes time and money to do that as well though, and I kinda feel like op would not have appreciated that markup

[–] pro_user@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] Taiatari 10 points 10 months ago

Bought where on the internet? I think that context is quite relevant tbh.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The price printed on it says 12.99 but yeah that is bullshit. They could not even be bothered to remove the sticker.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

It's crazy, right?

The whole world's gone sideways.

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