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There, the tourists “violently intimidated one of activists, who is a racialized woman, calling her ‘fascist’, ‘monkey’, telling her to go back to Africa and even threatening to kill her.”
Sounds on par for ethnic supremacists.
The "go to Africa" made me confused because all the people seemed to be white Portuguese. I saw nobody of African descent (and it still wouldn't be OK).
Maybe our nice tans were to offensive for those snow flakes.
Do Israelis not also have tans?
The majority of Jews and Israeli people are of European Caucuses descent today. Very few are descendents of the Semites. Ironically, the majority of Palestinians are closer descendents of the Semites than the current global Jewish population... Hmm...
I was thinking more I was thinking more of tans from sunlight. And guessing you get a decent amount of sun in Israel as you do in Portugal. It seems like the original comment was saying Israelis are more white than Portuguese. I was just wondering if that’s really true, or at least a common perception anyway.
Not as sexy as ours, evidently.
Not the ones in power for the most part. An interesting historical fact is that Zionism didn't really take off in terms of Europeans headed to Palestine until a few years after sunscreen was invented.
What does it mean to be racialized?
To acquire one unpaired valence electron.
Person of color, but only in a background where it has any significance. So a Chinese person is racialized in France, but not in China, and a German person is racialized in Japan, but not in Germany.
It's translated by Google from "racializado" I think. I think it's being singled out because of your race...or something...
Fortunately the bible only says to love your neighbour so you can really let loose when travelling.
the bible also contains accounts of god helping his people conquer land and uproot the residing population from it. I wouldn't use it as a moral reference.
In fact, let's be honest: there is no point in quoting any religious text, regardless of religion, when discussing morality. These texts are horribly dated and should be considered as historically interesting, but nothing more.
Hey I'm with you, my comment was supposed to highlight as much. Helping people conquer land is even one of the more palatable examples you can choose from when it comes to morally abhorrent things in the bible.
I mean, when there's no commandment against rape and the one for murder doesn't count when their god says it's totes ok bro, take their land and dash their babies against the rocks, they have no moral ground to stand on.
Religion is the language of the oppressors couched in fantasy to make you do their dirty work in the here and now for a payoff that certainly doesn't exist.
The audacity of entering someone's country, trying to control what they do and say and then tell them to go somewhere else "where they came from". Who would've expected an Israeli of being capable of such a thing.
Sounds like Elon Musk and Rupert Murdoch
israeli tourists should be banned from entering the EU, same as russian tourists. People from these two fucking countries should not be allowed in.
The people of Russia aren't guilty of anything.
In principle, the same is true of Israelites.
We don't judge a people by their nation state. That's how atrocities get normalized.
Israels population continued to vote for Netanyahu or even worse fascists and even the so called "center" and "center left" have been largely in support of continued settler colonial displacements and ethnic cleansings. Still a majority is in support of the current genocide.
The opposition to being a white supremacists "Blut und Boden, Lebensraum" Fascist state are in the small minority unfortunately.
...and Germans voted for Hitler.
Americans did and will again vote for trump. That doesn't mean all Americans want what he wants.
Y'all are fucking ridiculous. It's alarming.
And Germans have to take the responsibility for the atrocities of the Nazi time yes. What are you on about? If people vote for a government in a democratic election they bear responsibility for it. Not individually but as a people.
Also the Germans voted Hitler once and then there were no more elections. Israel had 11 elections since Netanyahu first came into power. And also the non Netanyahu governments continued the "settlements" aka ethnic cleansing of the West Bank.
To reiterate: We don't judge a people by their nation state. That's how atrocities get normalized.
Denying people tourist visas based on their country being complicit in a genocide is not an atrocity. Committing genocide is.
To reiterate: We don't judge a people by their nation state. That's how atrocities get normalized.
So by your logic Germany should not have paid reparations to the survivors and descendants of the Holocaust and should have paid no reparations to the countries it invaded? Because that was paid by the tax payer money of the people who were part of the war generation and the generations after. Even though clearly the generations after were not directly complicit, they bear the historic responsibility.
What you are advocating for under the guise of not "normalizing atrocities" is to simply abolish every people from being held accountable for their atrocities.
No I'm not. You're putting so, so many inaccurate words in my mouth. That's why I simply repeat myself so you can continue to play crazy person.
We don't judge the Russian people for Putin's actions.
We don't judge Germans for Hitler's actions.
People are people. Countries are countries.
To reiterate: We don't judge a people by their nation state. That's how atrocities get normalized.
We do judge those people who voted for Hitler. The Germans do so as well. We use that political party as a slur for a reason. I would not be surprised if other countries use "Nazi" as a slur as well.
Russia's election is a joke. That's what makes this different from blaming the Germans who voted for Hitler for giving the world Hitler.
Here's some read for you: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann_in_Jerusalem#Banality_of_evil
Yes, an average russian or Israeli person is not likely to have directly participated in the recent events.
The catch, though, it's that by not opposing the actions of their governments, they DO contribute to the events indirectly. They pay taxes. They work at factories producing weapons. They make the food that the soldiers eat.
On top of that it's not russian government who's currently pulling the triggers and dropping bombs. Just regular folks who just follow orders.
Yes, protesting in russia is not easy, but the war keeps going on because the government sees that people aren't worried too much about it.
And yes, in both countries there are people who actively oppose, but the majority doesn't.
And that majority is complicit.
I used to think a bit on this line. But as I watched the rise of Trump I came to realize that most of his supporters were simply dupped by his lies, and manipulated because of human nature. Many aren't bad people, but they honestly believe what they have been told. So thier crime is being human, and what turns out to be an average amount gullible. We really need to find a way to hold the leaders accountable.
I'm the opposite. I believe Trump supporters are fully responsible for their own actions. If they go and kill someone, I don't fucking care if Trump told them to do it when they had other choices. Unless these people are so mentally deficient that they'd need constant care and legal guardians to make decisions for them then they are completely capable of choosing to not be shit heads.
It's not about guilt, it's about the reality of propaganda radicalizing the population.
Of course not everyone in any of those countries is mindrotten, but that's like #NotAllMen, it's not about the individual, but the "culture".
I don't know if I agree with radical policies like what the parent comment proposes though.
I've seen Russians get arrested for protesting the war and I've seen Israeli children encourage by adults to stomp on food aid they blocked.
Israeli "settlers" have been stealing land from Palestinian families that have lived there for generations. For decades.
I agree that Jewish people as a whole aren't guilty, but the type that go into other people's homes, on other people's land in other people's countries are the same type that carry AR-15s when marching into a village in the West Bank to say, "this is mine now." Fuck those people.
It's ok to call the Proud Boys shit without damning the entire US population.
Isn't there a word for when people go to a foreign country and attack the locals? Feels like it's right on the tip of my tongue...
Terrorists.
Terrourists 😂
Invasion?
Why are these Nazis even allowed in?
because they disguise themselves as Jews
Careful, they might try to steal your home while they're there.
Coimbra is traditionally an academic city. The demonstrators were very peaceful. Had they done this in Porto, for example, it could've earn them a beating.
Portuguese peope are very good hosts, but you don't enter someone's "home" and tell them what to do. It's one of the most insulting things you can do as a visitor. And you don't tell us to "go to Africa". Honestly I'm surprised some old lady didn't came with a broom and sweep their asses into next week.
The two question zionists need to be explicitly asked are:
If they answer no to the first one, they expose their complete bias and therefore unable to even argue their position effectively.
If they answer yes, then they have to explain why the genocidal traits of what Israel are doing are not genocide, which might hopefully make them more introspective.