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[–] [email protected] 311 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The power of 21000 homes for advertising.

What's most impressive is that it is even legal.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Is it? Last I‘ve heard it was bleeding money.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I love this kind of shit. Building things for the sake of it is worth it. Not only as just expression, which may be hubris but it's still expression. Also entertainment, inspiration, pushing the art of engineering, and just giving people something to do, and all the good that comes with that like personal and trade growth.

A purely utilitarian life is a life only spent on survival. Not a life I want to live.

[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We can do that, but first let’s make sure everyone on the planet has clean water first.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The money spent on this would not have been spent on giving clean water to people thousands of miles away

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand that perspective, but does it really have to be advertising?

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[–] [email protected] 250 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Currently, an agreement is under review to ensure that 70% of the Sphere's power needs will come from solar sources, with the other 30% from non-renewable energy that will be offset by renewable energy credits.

Ahh yes, energy credits. AKA bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We shouldnt call them energy credits, but rather indulgences.

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Currently, an agreement is under review to ensure that 70% of the Sphere's power needs will come from solar sources, with the other 30% from non-renewable energy that will be offset by renewable energy credits.

Nevada has pledged to achieve net zero emissions of greenhouse gases by 2050, and the solar project under construction to help offset its energy debt is estimated to complete in 2027.

How stupid is it that somebody can claim “Net Zero” greenhouse gas emissions when 30% of their power is greenhouse gas.

Just gonna throw this out there. Fuck credits, charge a carbon tax.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (7 children)

We'll also ignore the fact that that solar could have been used to offset actual needs instead of this BS.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

The word net does a lot of heavy lifting and it’s just a scam

You can use 100% coal power and claim net zero by buying a forest

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Las Vegas in general is a testament to the hubris of humanity and an admittedly impressive technical feat. Does it even exist without the Hoover Dam?

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I don't know about power, but Vegas is actually incredibly water efficient. Due to the way the water rights work with the Colorado river, they're not allowed very much, but it doesn't "count" if you put it back in. So nearly every drop they use is treated and put back (probably cleaner, tbh). Boggles the brain, but somehow it's actually a fairly sustainable city. More than any other other major metro, in any event.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Considering they are in a literal desert, they would have to be fairly sustainable to exist in the first place. Not saying it's not super impressive, my dad lived out there when they were building up a lot of the expanded infrastructure and he has some cool stories about how he saw the desert on the outskirts disappear as they added in all the water and transportation stuff

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It's funny, I think Vegas is perfectly fine as the city of sin so things like this really don't phase me. It was built on the idea of crime and excess.

What does seem weird to me is how in a desert, why isn't everything solar? The sun is their only natural resource besides sand. Every rooftop and parking lot and flat surface possible seems like it should be a panel.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

28,000,000 watts

That's usually written as 28MW. I know some Americans don't like metric much, but one of the points of metric is that you don't ever need to write that many zeroes - you just need to use the right prefix (kilo, mega, giga, tera, etc) on the unit.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (9 children)

True, but 28 million watts really puts things in perspective when your average PSU is less than 1000w.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Add a solar array and battery bank, a you might even have electricity left over. It’s in the desert after all.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Still a waste of energy because that could be used for the general grid

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wouldn’t say entertainment is a waste of energy even if there are nobler uses for the power.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Advertising may be entertaining but it's not entertainment

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (9 children)

And a waste of electricity?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I believe that's implied in the "hubris" bit.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't know what they need so many GPUs for. There's 16 displays inside, and the sphere itself has fewer pixels than even 1 of the internal displays. You could probably run the sphere off a laptop if you aren't trying to do anything fancy.

Maybe they plan on doing crazy live simulations on it or something. I can't imagine what kind of displayed image would actually use all 150 of them. Nvidia A6000 cards are damn powerful.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Probably have a few cards running the displays and the rest of them mining some sphere-themed memecoin

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

I hope the name “dystopia sphere” catches on.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Using the max power use of a video card to math this is ridiculous. It's not at full TDP pushing this content. They aren't playing max FPS 3D raytraced gaming, they're playing videos.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

What.

The article says that, for the GPUs, they can have a "maximum power draw of 45,000 W at full tilt".

The 28 million W comes from the full system, and surely the massive displays, LEDs and eventually sound system makes up the bulk of that, the gfx cards are a rounding error...

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the 'dystopia-sphere' trying to compete with the torment nexus or something?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I mean it is cool. But really a testament to why we deserve extinction at this point...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

If they reversed it (displays inside), it would be the best immersive gaming setup ever.

Edit: looks like they are inside.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (9 children)

That’s what it is on the inside.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Might as well just give up on the earth right now I guess

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