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shouldn't the federal minimum wage apply to everyone who is doing work in the US? This seems like fraud
how would you distinguish this from regular outsourcing
That the neat thing, you don't.
Here, for certain industries (might be all but I don't have first hand accounts of that), the contractors must make sure that the companies/freelancers they employ pay their taxes, otherwise, they are on the hook for it.
Do the same. If a company outsource work, they should prove that they pay the same as they would in their region, and if it not, be hit hard by fines and/or jail time.
But one can only dream I guess
Should apply to that as well if they're interacting with the US market. All the way through subcontractors to the end employee. No hiding behind contracting local companies.
$3 is loads more than the Philippines minimum wage. I think it's $8-$10 per day.
Also, y'all are thinking of what $3 buys in the US. The purchasing power is far different. $3 buys a lot over there.
I'll ask my wife when she gets home, but I bet $3 is equivalent to $10-$12 in the US.
Also, y'all are thinking of what $3 buys in the US. The purchasing power is far different. $3 buys a lot over there.
You misunderstand. We aren't unaware or ignoring the purchasing power difference, that's obvious, everyone knows currency differs. The issue is and always has been the outsourcing to increase profit in general, regardless of country or purchasing disparity. There is no reason to use a teleconferenced cashier for a retail location other than minimizing employee pay, not just by paying the minimum required here but literally taking a local job and shipping it overseas so you can instead pay what would be a clear poverty wage here, while undoubtedly having record profits like all these companies end up with.
I mean, yeah probably. That's not the point. The point is that it's a race to the bottom for people living in higher cost-of-living places.
Boo for OP who didn't name and shame
https://nypost.com/2024/04/09/us-news/nyc-restaurants-use-zoom-cashiers-from-philippines/
adding that she splits tips with her manager and kitchen staff at the restaurant.
They don't even let her keep her entire tips. The whole situation is fucked. Somebody mentioned in the article also brought up a great point...
“Today, this is a Filipino woman behind a screen, controlling a POS system — but it’s not crazy to believe that probably in the next six to twelve months, this could be an AI avatar doing all the same things,” he said.
What a shitty future we have.
Zoom ID and pass are in the image tho 😄
this should be straight up illegal.
It's not only legal it's effectively encouraged. Capitalism is a race to the bottom, regardless of consequences.
At that point why even have a cashier? Just put a POS and have people swype to enter like a subway.
Good thing they build a wall so these mean immigrants are not stealing jobs.
This shit has got to be outlawed. Companies are doing this across the board. Literally skirting labor laws, outsourcing jobs that should be going to us citizens, all to just continue pouring more money into the tops pockets. When will we have all had enough?
It's a simple enough solution in this case. They are performing the work of employees, so for all intents and purposes, they are employees. They are directly interacting with US customers at a physical location within the US. Their place of work is that physical location, even if they are not physically present. They need authorization to work in the US, and the minimum wage laws applicable to that location applies to these workers.
All that is missing is the lawsuit under existing labor laws, which they will probably lose.
I would not shop here. If I saw this, I would turn around and walk out. Go somewhere that they value work.
BuT nO oNe WaNtS tO wOrK aNyMoRe
BuT nO oNe WaNtS tO wOrK aNyMoRe
:D
Obligatory -
How about this one from about 2000 years ago:
37 Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;
Matthew 9:37
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+9%3A37&version=KJV
Are there movements in the US or globally to force all business into worker coops? Unions are good but I think this is their ultimate limitation, that employers can just offshore their jobs
Argentina has somewhat of a history of workers seizing their factories. I think it would be extremely hard in the U.S. due to the well-funded police. Generally, I guess the movement would be "anarcho-syndicalism."
Edit: misremembered worker factory takeovers in the past as occurring in Venezuela instead of Argentina.
Having no actual person guarding your business is a recipe for theft. If this catches on it will be so much easier to steal from places. I'm ok with this
You shouldnt ever try to protect the cash register at your place of work. They give 0 fucks about you and will have a job posting up before your body is cold.
Having no actual person guarding your business is a recipe for theft.
Privatize the profits, socialize the costs
Why not just have a kiosk at this point
The monthly subscription to the kiosk software still costs more I bet.
Japanese Fried Chicken? JFC
Looks like this is "Japang". Terrible reviews online and described as actually a "ghost kitchen".
Ghost kitchens for those who don’t know are basically “restaurants” for online takeout orders. They don’t do in person service.
Working as a graphic designer in the US since the early 2000's, every employer I ever worked for eventually used Fiverr to pay someone overseas a fraction of what they paid me to do the same work. This doesn't seem meaningfully different.
Not saying this is okay, just that it's not even remotely (no pun intended) a new problem.
Ah yes, it's the minorities who are stealing jobs. Not the lack of regulations blocking corpos from outsourcing work.
Theyre stealing our jobs without even being here! /s
I’m honestly surprised the corps haven’t done this to all of their drive-thrus.
What happens when you join the zoom id listed?