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[–] [email protected] 97 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Rode in a car with a full tinted glass roof once. Everybody's brains were boiling.

Looking at that picture, all I see is sunburn, heatstroke, and headache.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

Pretty sure you can't get a sunburn through glass. Cancer, yes, but not a sunburn.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/can-i-get-sunburnt-through-glass

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Some, but not all glass has a coating that blocks ultraviolet and infrared wavelengths. The technology was introduced in the 1980's.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Yeah. My ginger wife definitely got a bad sunburn during a car ride.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Depends on the glass. Normal glass has zero UV protection. In cars the front window usually has it, while the side windows don't. Although I read that years ago, no idea what the current status is.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Your link disagrees with you. Hoping nobody pays attention? Hoping for up votes?

False fact post, bad faith actor, or llm. All 3?

From your link: "You can still get burned with long enough exposure."

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Never heard of lighting a fire with a magnifying glass?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

You get sunburns from UV light, not heat alone

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Article states, accurately; "you can still get burned with long enough exposure".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

It depends on the type of glass. "Normal" glass blocks UVB, which is the major cause of cancer from sunlight. I don't know what type of glass they were using in 40's era cars though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Funny you should mention that. The dapper gentleman in the front passenger seat was my grandfather. Back in the 40s, buying a new car was a very big deal, so he brought his friend from work and each of their mistresses. My grandmother didn't find out about her until about a year later after all four of them had developed melanoma and naw I'm just fuckin' with ya I dunno who they are.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

dont a bunch of teslas have full glass roofs? what do they do?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It’s very tinted. No worries about the sun. I suppose there must still be at least some greenhouse effect but from living in the Northeast, I’ve never noticed any heat from the sun through the roof.

Compared to my Subaru’s sun roof, which has dark tinting but lets in a lot of heat, the Tesla glass roof tinting is much darker and doesn’t

It may also help the perception of heat that I usually have cabin overheat protection turned on. After my car has been parked out in the hot sun, even if I forget to turn on climate control ahead of time, the cabin is never over 100° when I get in, and cools quickly

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Not only Teslas, it's an industry wide trend, specially for EVs, but combustion card also have it.

Heavy tint, optionally a shade and A/C. It's pretty comfortable even in full July sun.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I bet that would be fun in a rollover.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not much worse than a cabriolet or convertible i guess

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (5 children)

They typically have roll over protections in the seat and windshield to save the people inside.

This doesn’t.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah modern cars do. Back then though, they didn't even have seat belts. The glass roof, was the least of their problems if they crashed

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

But the glass roof would pop the airbags, reducing their effectiveness.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Can't tell if you think old cars had airbags or if I'm interpreting your comment incorrectly.

From my own memory, air bags didn't really become a common thing until the late 90s. A lot of my cars from the 90s didn't have airbags at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Why would they have airbags if they had glass roofs?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Airbags were first patented in 1952. They couldn't even become common place until the patent expired.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Airbags were introduced in the 60's as an option, no one wanted the extra expense.

It took regulation to make airbags commonplace, not really much to do with patents, more to do with airbag manufacturers, auto manufacturers and insurance underwriters working together to lobby for the regulation...since it benefitted them.

Not that I'm against airbags in cars - this is just how it came about - vested interests.

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[–] RamblingPanda 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Modern ones do. In this era they didn't, the windshield just folded flat and there was usually nothing in the back as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes your kids were in the back.

[–] RamblingPanda 11 points 8 months ago

True, but they didn't offer much of a shielding from the impact with their short, weak necks.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

head removal machine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Current nRollover standards allow metal roofs to deform 6”. As a taller person, that is a nightmare, so I’ll take the roof that doesn’t deform and crush my skull

For modern cars like Tesla All the strength is in the pillars. The glass roof is for stiffness and to keep the weather out.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (4 children)

trying to imagine what that would be like during 110°F weather …

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Which is why these things never go into production. If you follow concept cars, you'll see this sort of glass roof idea pop up all the time. Nobody will ever make one because it's functionally a solar oven.

One exception that did make it to production is the Peel Trident. It's still an oven, though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Did cars even have air conditioning back then?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

1930 – The “car cooler” uses the evaporation of water (rather than your own sweat) to cool air, which is then blown in through the open passenger-side window. Though it’s the first item to actually lower the air temperature, it only works in areas with very low humidity – and it looks like you have a vacuum cleaner strapped to the side of your car.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They were pretty innovative back then!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nothing speeds innovation like having one’s balls stuck to one’s leg.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

ok guys.. Option "A" is castration. I don't care how elaborate option "B" is, but we're going with that!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They existed, but it took until the 1960s to become common in upper class models.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I'd expect this can to be above upper class models though LOL

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Its like a covered cooking pot. Can't imagine how hot it would be in there

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Detroit car execs from the 1940s. Ribeye and six-martini lunches every day. Drunk and reckless driving galore, above-the-law behavior six days a week. Mindless corporate crony bores with no inner life. I have no reason to believe Mad Men was lying about any of that stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Reminds me of the AMC Pacer my family had. Everyone compared it to a fish bowl

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wow! I can't see any way that that could possibly go wrong!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Anybody have any stats on how many people were decapitated by these before we stopped making them?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I wonder if it's more or less than how many people were baked inside them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Was it really glass, or perspex or something?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Did they have tempered glass back then?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

People would fly down the highway, kids in the car, nobody in seatbelts. That was normal until the 90s.

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