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[–] [email protected] 102 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Tree" isn't a biological definition. It's a descriptive term for "a tall plant with at least one rigid central trunk." Which means that anything that looks like a tree is probably a tree, regardless of species.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ayy, welcome to the tree club!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

We welcome you to tree-hood, my fellow arbor

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you get pollinated by birds and bees?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

That's personal

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There's no widely-accepted scientific definition of a tree.

##PeopleCorrectingPeopleIncorrectly

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Conifers aren't trees by this definition. It seems to completely ignore gymnosperms and even misclassified a couple as dicots like sequoias and junipers.

We need to stop looking for a scientifically coherent category for a tree and ,like fish, embrace the true, intuitive, childlike definition of it as just a form, a trunk with leaves at the top.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How many social credit points do I lose if I refer to bamboo products as "wood" outside of botany nerd circles?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly, wood consists mainly of cellulose, lignin, and hemi-cellulose. I don't know about bamboo, but I guess it's some kind of woody material.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It’s the lack of lignin (bamboo uses silica as a strengthener) that sets it apart.

But bamboo is a grass, anyways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Never doubted bamboo not being a grass. But I didn't know about the silica thing - that's really cool!! Thank you for telling this!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

"Trees" have secondary growth while "palms" have primary growth. At least that is what I have been told in dendrology lectures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_growth

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

true enough, that doesn't exclude them from being trees though.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

From the coco palm family!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

🎵 Ya ya ya ya ya 🎵

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

it looks like a tree and quacks like a tree though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Ironically, in this case, that literally means it's a tree

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Okay, and raspberries aren't technically berries at all, but aggregate fruits. In other words, so the fuck what? When you say 'coconut tree', everyone knows what plant you're referring to.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Trees are the plant version of crabs.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you 🌴🥥🍹

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's probably going to be political since it's wrong.

The coconut tree (Cocos nucifera) is a member of the palm tree family (Arecaceae) and the only living species of the genus Cocos. The term "coconut" (or the archaic "cocoanut") can refer to the whole coconut palm, the seed, or the fruit, which botanically is a drupe, not a nut. They are ubiquitous in coastal tropical regions and are a cultural icon of the tropics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm off to edit that wiki, the tree is a bit of a misnomer.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecaceae

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I see a fight coming your way in the talk section, lol. Good luck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Nah, it's correct. Just needs a clarifying sentence. They use the word tree but it's not technically a tree, rather tree-like. The word tree is used for ease, colloquially. They grew like this as they are plants well suited for seaside wind and storms, hurricanes... Wetland plants. The grasses that didn't give up. Tree definitions vary from form vs function, and form is used more colloquially.

Edit: Fixed yayayayyay I need more edits this month

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

No tree is a tree. "Tree" is not a clearly-defined taxonomical category. Anything that is tree-like gets grouped under the catgory "tree".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think it's arguable that "tree" is just a term for a growth habit rather than anything really taxonomically meaningful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

agreed. my grandma used to have a big ol' tree in her front yard, but it had to get cut down. it didn't die though, and thanks to this unintentional coppicing, it is now an enormous bush. my grandma is very proud of her bush.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Da palm grows da coconut and turns da election around

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Time to post one of my favorite songs:

https://youtu.be/PKQPey6L42M

("Da Coconut Nut", by Ryan Cayabyab. This version is probably the one performed by his group, Smokey Mountain.)

This song reminds us that the coconut is not a nut; it is the fruit of the cocopalm.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I have literature right here that says otherwise.

Ahem..

"A told B, and B told C, I'll beat you to the top of the coconut tree."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can tell it's an Aspen from the way it is

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Thats pretty neat!

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