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I'm seeing this so many times.. Like Aiden, Caiden, Braiden, Jaiden, Paiden..

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There's a well-studied phenomenon called "social diffusion". People of higher socioeconomic status seek out novel, unique, or fashionable baby names and start using them. These names gradually get picked up by families of lower socioeconomic status. Eventually the names become mainstream, and then finally decline in popularity.

[–] [email protected] 139 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This deserves way more upvotes.

Edit>> Come on, you can do better than 6 downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

We could, but we don't want to.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Social diffusion is an explanation of how information spreads, not just names.

My understanding is that unique names and neologism have long been a feature of African-American culture where North American Caucasians followed a family naming tradition. I think what has happened is some celebrities have moved towards a unique name scheme. But it feels like a mainstreaming of AA culture more than anything.

The impetus has been there in Europe. Many nations have/had very restrictive rules about names. They'd only have rules against it if people were trying to do it. I had Swiss friends who were very excited that their daughter was born in Canada so they could name her "Sora" which wasn't in the approved name list in Switzerland.

[–] Anyolduser 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

"Approved name list"? What the actual fuck?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Same in France, though they've loosened up a bit. Used to be saints names only.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I believe Iceland has this as well.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 8 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Karen haircut makes that picture

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I would feel bad for Zayden, except that in an alternate timeline where his father was named Brad, Zayden would have been ~~banned~~ named Hunter. So it could be worse. I would rather be Zayden than Hunter.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I work with two guys named Hunter and they're very cool

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Most Hunters I've met are pretty cool. Can't say the same about Drew's, Brock's, or Clayton's, but I feel like those are becoming more uncommon as I get older.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago

Here are my two sons Aiden and Abettin.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Aiden is tradition Gaelic and it means "fire". Caiden is also Gaelic meaning "battle" Braiden is Gaelic meaning "salmon" Jayden is Hebrew for "God will judge" Hayden is old English meaning "hedged valley"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to see your source for those. I don't know Gaelic so I can't fact check those ones, but I do know a bit of Hebrew, and names that mean 'God X' usually end in el, not en. Also, Hebrew doesn't have an English J sound, it has the IPA J sound though, or English Y sound. The Hebrew word for judge is 'shofet'.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Unique names and spellings became popular in the US during the 70s as part of the Black Power movement. The politically conscious black parents didn't want to name their children European names, for some reason. The problem is that these black parents had no cultural link to Africa because that had been stolen from them.

Fist came Arab names. I presume this has to do with the NOI and the black celebrities who converted to it. Some of these names are still popular like Omar and Jamal. Of course Black Americans have no more connection to Islam than they do to Christianity, So black parents just started making new names for their children.

American popular culture tends to incubate in the black community and slowly drift into white culture. So it has gone with the unique baby names.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ashleigh, Raileigh, Kaileigh

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

You forgot the best one, Okayden.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Paiden? That's a weird one. Payme on the other hand, now that's a good name.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I knew someone with that name. Or at least I assume that was her name because she kept repeating it, like a Pokémon. Incidentally, she was a sex worker.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

What's with your name, buzz?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Ah, a lesser known Daft Punk song.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

It's the male version of adding -lin to the end of a name.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I feel all wrong now because you decided not to list the first three in alphabetic order.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Like all the other sounds that come out of your face, what could be up with it?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

It's been around for a while. Over a decade ago Target ran a cheeky back to school advert featuring a slow pan across school cubbies with lunch pails all labelled with variant spellings of "Braiden". I thought it was hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Meanwhile, in Utah, a pair of new parents are becoming really charmed by the idea of ‘Brexit’ as a name for their next child.

This has all happened before and it will all happen again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I understand the pushback against names like this, and concern for kids receiving these names, but I think it is misdirected. Ya, sure, maybe sometimes the name is literally made up, or in other cases has multiple variations on a theme, but anyone with immigration in their ancestry can tell you that naming conventions do not always move well to other countries. In the USA, we have multiple spellings for names like Muhammed and Dermitt because of this. I don't see why this is a big deal and think it potentially enriches culture.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As usual..who cares what someone names their kid even if it sounds dumb to you don't worry about it go live your life not worrying about this shit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's okay to be curious about the world - wanting to understand is not the same thing as wanting to judge or prevent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Honestly just curious about this current naming tend

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