is judging people based on what others have done not the whole point of Catholicism?
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There's also buying forgiveness and inquisitioning.
And there's covering up mass rape of children.
is judging people based on what others have done not the whole point of ~~Catholicism~~ all Christianity?
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Oh I'm totally Judging you too catholic. Any religious nuts btw
You want to believe in something go ahead that's healthy,
You want to be part of a money making, rule setting, kid raping, woman killing (see how any religion applies?!) organization that tells you how and what you have to believe and that some people are less than others?! Then you are fucked up
"see how any religion applies?!"
Atheist of fundamentalist protestant extraction. Aren't like some of the Buddhists pretty cool? Especially the Zen Buddhists. Also, Sikhs seem cool. And the Jainists.
I could totally be wrong. Organized religion is a terrible thing in almost all of my experience.
Wiccans have been real cool in my experience. They have really fun orgies.
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You want to be part of a money making, rule setting, kid raping, woman killing (see how any religion applies?!)
With the “see how any religion applies” part you are so close to recognizing that this is a strawman argument.
You can take any sufficiently large group of people and find bad subgroups. You can take any sufficiently large organization and find corruption.
Your statement can apply to more than just religion. You could apply it to any country, for example.
If you had any sense you wouldn't claim to be part of an organized religion that shielded people who raped kids. They shouldn't shield people who are killing kids and committing genocide. These are pretty easy judgements for me and even Bob sees it.
If you had any sense you wouldn't claim to be part of an organized religion
there FTFY
Hitler spoke German so that language should be banned.
Prove me wrong /s
Try better strawman, this one is full of holes
So is arguing that because an organization has corruption and bad things happen in it that the whole thing is worth throwing away. If that was the case you would have to consider all governments, organizations, systems and businesses that are inherently faulty are worth the same dismantling.
It’s almost as if all things made by human hands are faulty and can’t be repaired or something.
Wow, what a fucking disingenuous argument. How disgusting do you have to be to wave away systemic child rape with "some corruption and bad things happen"?
How about you examine why you think that dismantling an organisation that shields these people is a controversial idea? I don't care if it's a government, company, charity, any fucking place that is found to systemically protect child rapists needs to go, period. If you're not comfortable with that idea, you should probably be asking yourself some questions.
Not all things, just organized religions. There's a fine difference between "an organization has corruption and bad things happen" and "an organization has no point to exist other than to protect corruption and bad things within itself". At least government gives me something when I pay taxes to it
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You literally are this meme 🤡
Do you not even notice the irony in your reply? At all?
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And Veggietales (screenshot in the meme) is a Christian-themed show for a Christian audience.
There's never ever, ever, ever, ever been a show like it
What’s a progressive catholic?
A rape apologist?
Wasn’t the Catholic Church involved in eradicating native populations in a couple countries too?
Someone who vibes with the basic teachings of Jesus (feed the hungry, clothe the poor, turn the other cheek, etc.) and heavy ritual stuff (cathedrals, stained glass, cannibalism by proxy, etc.) but does not vibe with repressive conservative politics.
They were probably raised Catholic, saw some ick with the Institution, but vibed with Jesus too hard to just write the Faith off. Tbf every progressive probably vibes with Jesus if they read what the guy supposedly said.
It’s what is done in his name that turns people off.
That'd be the ick. Still a cool dude though, lot on the ball. I'd say progressive Catholics are mostly the ones who assume that if you don't fw the Vatican you don't fw the Christ and don't think about it too much. There's a lotta good people caught up in that mentality.
Anything is great if you hand wave the horrible away.
And anything is horrible if you handwaved the great. That's why Buddha took the middle path.
A Catholic that doesn’t follow core teachings of the church like anti abortion and gay people go to hell.
But a little kid raping is ok you just got to be relocated. Enjoy Catholic light*
When did I say that? Did you just assume my religion?
Did you just assume I assumed your religion?
Very high quality comments in this thread. /s
I wouldn't expect anything else.
It’s just like that old website, no nuance or discussion. It’s like r/atheism all over again.
ITT: People doing literally the same thing the meme is about
“Progressive Catholic” talk about an oxymoron, emphasis on the moron…
So many people in this thread proving the point.
Quick name one mass murder or genocide in the name of atheism.
I mean ... I guess you could consider the planned extermination of Nepalese culture and faith or the concentration camps full of Uyghurs for "re-education" an attempt at genocide if you wanted to use the term very liberally?
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This is a semantic game. The honest question is that does becoming more secular make one more moral? I've never seen anybody make the case for that (though plenty love to imply it w/o evidence).
Can we agree that Israel is more secular than her neighbors? Is Israel's government or people more benevolent? It's a trope that Muslims are violent, but compared to just half a century of secular Europe's World Wars, Islam is a blameless kitten.
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