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[–] [email protected] 235 points 6 months ago (8 children)

I don't see any mention of the YouTube adblock trick, so from the vid:

Copy YouTube URL. Paste it in Bing and search. Scroll passed Bing's sponsored bullshit and click on the thumbnail for the video you searched. It will then play, still in Bing, with no ads.

So if you're on a work or government or w/e computer that doesn't allow installing adblock extensions, there ya go. No downloads or anything, just YouTube and Bing.

 

...this is the first time I've ever had any interest in using Bing, lol.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Scroll passed Bing's sponsored bullshit

Ah. Still some ads then.

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[–] [email protected] 195 points 6 months ago (22 children)

Isn't he the same person who calls adblocking piracy?

I mean I get that Youtubers have no morals and it's all about money but that seems excessively hypocritical, even for a Youtube "personality".

[–] [email protected] 295 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Isn't he the same person who calls adblocking piracy?

He's also got a generally nuanced opinion of piracy, in that it's justifiable in some situations. If you call it piracy and you're okay with piracy then it's not really a contradiction.

Being willing to talk about it despite working against your interests isn't always bad depending on context.

[–] [email protected] 186 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Breaking news, people on the Internet have no concept of nuance.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 6 months ago

How dare you make such a direct and personal attack on me!

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I had the vague recollection of him having a small-business-owner-brain moment and going on about how it's theft, and it's taking money out of his pockets, or something along those lines.

Looks like I may have been either thinking of someone else, or misinterpreted a snippet of video of him ranting about something.

I will admit to not watching his stuff for a good number of years now, and could be totally conflating things.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

That was probably his stance when YouTube ad revenue was his stream of income.

In 2024 they pay pennies, and his real income is from sponsorships like those d-brand skins and manscaping utilities. And their own merch, of course.

They've been pushing their own media platform (floatplane), so I'm willing to bet this was a bit of a game of chicken with YouTube. YouTube wouldn't ban one of their biggest channels, and even if they did it'd turn into great publicity for floatplane.

While I don't think they'd be able to get a lot of their subscribers over to floatplane completely, I do think they'd be able to pull over lots of random views by having their shorts on Facebook, Instagram and whoever else is trying to mimic tiktok these days.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (8 children)

He directly called it bad because it hurt his revenue stream. He is ok with ad blocking as long as it isn't being done to him. That's pretty bold if you ask me. A double standard, quite the opposite of nuance. He equated it with entering a cirque due soleil show without paying a ticket, which is a false equivalence. He thinks that he is entitled to have his ads seen as a price of admittance to watching his videos. No one is entitled to have their ads watched.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago (3 children)

LTT always seemed "slimy" to me, especially after the whole mistreatment allegations ordeal

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Yeah, ever since all that stuff came out just before the new CEO took over, including the video/audio of the sexual harassment meeting which was treated as a total joke, I unsubscribed and stopped viewing their content. I couldn't reconcile their fun and approachable/friendly image with how they're treating staff. Moved on to watching more from other creators like Jayztwocents. Unfortunate that people keep turning out to be shitty left and right.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Isn't that essentially what it is? Getting something for free through certain means you wouldn't get for free otherwise? Which means no money goes to whoever owns the service you're using?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (21 children)

Say you walk up to some person giving out free samples of food. As a condition of taking this free sample, you also must take a pamphlet of advertisements from the people who are giving you the free sample. You take your free sample, and then walk away while dropping the pamphlet in the nearest trash can. That's essentially what ad blocking is. You're simply preventing certain parts of a web page from being downloaded to your device. That's why people have issues with the "piracy" label, because nothing is being "stolen". You're just refusing to take all of it.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (51 children)

He's right that it's piracy, he doesn't go on to say piracy is wrong, and neither would I.

It's piracy to block ads, and piracy isn't always wrong, so who cares?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (14 children)

I put the local football game on my tv over antenna. Oh a commercial, I guess I'll walk away to take a piss now. The swat team busts down my door. I run for my scabbard to resist but with one peg leg I'm not quick enough. The seas are rough sailing for pirates willing to skip ads mateys.

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I have no longer watched their content since the scandal.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 6 months ago (12 children)

Probably the sexual harassment one that's when I left. The billet labs stuff was bad too though.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Thanks for sharing? Why is every Lemmy single comment section filled with unrelated iamverysmart comments.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I’ll be that guy. I don’t understand why LTT gets so much crap from people constantly, they seem to have a very toxic community even without the scandals. But in regards to the more recent scandal, I really think a lot of those things are fixable and I’ll be watching to see if they fix them.

As far as the sexual harassment stuff goes I can see that as a legitimate reason to stop watching. At the same time though, how should we feel with such limited and one sided information? And especially how should I feel if the problems aren’t inherent to the company and if they don’t reoccur?

Maybe someone can help clear this up for me because I’m not that informed and I’m still giving them a chance but maybe I shouldn’t be.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (11 children)

I stopped because they are bro douchebags.

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't care for Linus these days but respect for that.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I got tired of his videos half-assing the work and the failed reviews hurting small manufacturers while Linus doubled down after GN documented their failures.

But this I can get behind.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (12 children)

Doubled down? After being called out they slowed the upload cadence, are taking more time to make sure mistakes don't get through, and changed their production process. They also formed a volunteer team of "beta tester" viewers who see each video pre-release to catch any mistakes they didn't internally. I think they handled it well. Of course it would be better if they didn't have a problem in the first place, but I'd never call it "doubling down".

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago (9 children)

There was an initial reaction from Linus on his forums where he massively doubled down on his stance that he had not done anything wrong with the review model LTT had auctioned off without permission (I can't remember the name of the company). He had even accused GN of not following "journalistic standards" by not giving LTT a chance to put their side forward.

This was met with another video from GN, and overall criticism over the dismissive attitude Linus was displaying. That's when they came out with a YT video, admitting their numerous faults, and Linus himself admitted that the way he responded on the forum was not acceptable.

Pretty much doubled down initially, till they realised that they're in actual deep waters.

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 6 months ago (14 children)

Friendly reminder that pirates didn't usually stole gold. Piracy was stealing shipping goods, then selling them for profit at some port. Digital piracy is thus defined as acquiring, and then distributing for profit, media that you don't own the copyrights of. Ad blocking is categorically not piracy.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Also, "piracy" or "copyright infringement" isn't theft in any sense.

A key element of theft is that you deprive the rightful owner of something. You now have it and they no longer do. What makes it wrong is that the person who should have it no longer does. It's not that you have it. That's why the punishment for "mischief" where someone completely destroys something belonging to someone else is similar to the punishment for the theft of that same object.

Copyright infringement is breaking the rule that the state imposed giving someone the exclusive right to control the copying of something. You're not depriving anyone of anything tangible when you infringe a copyright. They still have the original, they still have any copies they made, any copies they gave out or sold are still where they were. The only thing you're doing is violating the rule that gave them exclusive control. If you're depriving someone of anything, it's depriving them of the opportunity they might have had to make money from selling a copy.

If anything, copyright infringement is more similar to trespassing than to theft. Just like copyright infringement, trespassing involves not allowing someone to control who accesses their property. If you sneak onto someone's campground property and have a bonfire party, the person loses the opportunity to rent out the campground for the bonfire, and any money they might have received for doing that. But, if you sneak in and sneak out and leave no trace, you could argue that nobody is harmed.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Well that's a thumbnail I'd never click on

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (36 children)

Funny, considering in the past he's gone on big rants about how adblocking is no different from piracy, and is theft.

But then again, its Linus we're talking about, its not like he has a particularly big issue with theft anymore.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago (17 children)

I don't understand why people are all pro-piracy but then get offended when someone accuses them of piracy....

He never went on any "big rants". He's mentioned it a few times, and he's right. You're bypassing payment (in the form of watching ads) to watch the video. LTT doesn't really care because AdSense only makes up a small portion of their income, which is why he's shown many different times, many different ways to block/bypass advertising. I could make an argument about how he's "pulling up the ladder behind him" but I digress.

Regardless "piracy" is a fairly convoluted term with no concrete definition and it's a dumb argument for anyone to have.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I bet they removed it faster than a porn video on YouTube Kids! 😲

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago

don't you know, it's hate speech against corporate profits

[–] [email protected] 66 points 6 months ago

Of course de-googling your life is a violation of the terms is service...

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah so its war you want, YouTube.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What happened to his hair?

[–] [email protected] 106 points 6 months ago (5 children)

D-Brand paid him to bleach it.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago

Obligatory Louis Rossmann commentary on the matter. https://youtu.be/qHwP6S_jf7g?feature=shared

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

…to the surprise of absolutely no one who's been paying attention. They got rid of the coalmine canary clause like a fucking decade ago.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What the heck does complying with wiretap orders have to do with removing YouTube videos about adblockers?

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (20 children)

Didn't he say that using adblockers in YouTube was basically piracy?

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

There would be less talking over each other due to word definitions if the music industry had not convicted people that murder and stealing on boats was good way to describe unauthorized copying.

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