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At this point I'm going to Ladbrokes and betting against everything Kotaku promotes. They are like Jim Cramer of the gaming industry.

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[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 123 points 6 months ago (6 children)

The most frustrating thing about this article is that it completely ignores that good movies targeted at kids still have to be good. Personal complaints aside, the new Mario movie was reasonably good for adults and great for kids. Pixar keeps churning out things that are fantastic on many levels. Bluey is an amazing show that can resonate with kids and parents. I don’t for a minute buy the elitist bullshit of “well you’re not a kid so you can’t comment.” Muppet Treasure Island holds the fuck up as an adult so this writer can fuck right off.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 53 points 6 months ago (5 children)

What's also weird is Minecraft is 15 years old at this point. That means you've basically got a huge age range (kids to adults) within the target audience. Why isn't it targeted at the entire fanbase?

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[–] anonymous111@lemmy.world 75 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I've been playing Minecraft off and on since the Beta. I usually play the "All the mods" packs when they launch.

I do not understand how people get so emotionally invested in an IP.

If it isn't a good movie who cares? Just spend your time doing something else.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Just reiterating what others have said but... if you have an IP you like and want more of it in the future (regardless of medium!) then its success in any other medium will likely impact whether or not you get more.

Unfortunately, we live in a world where:

  • Money matters more to most IP holders than the IP itself

  • New IP is seen as risky

  • Those in charge don't have to take responsibility for their failures

If there is a commercial failure of an IP, there is a good chance that its failure will be seen as the IP generally failing or falling out of poluarity instead of the failure to best utilize the IP that likely occurred. As a result, priorities will often shift away from the IP to something else in all mediums (ex. ASOIAF/GOT). Unless the IP is absolutely gangbusters in all other mediums, it will suffer. Similarly, success will likely lead to more utilization of the IP in any medium.

It's unlikely that the IP owner will sell or license the IP in the near future because at one point it was popular and new IP is hard to make. It would be better to hoard IP and maybe try again in a decade when they need a trick up their sleeve. Plus, another failure might damage the IP even more.

Admittedly, I'm not attached to any brands or IP in particular and so I'm not invested really. I just makes me a little sad when some IP I thought well of has this happen... or when the person who benefits from the IP turns out to be a person I'd rather not give money to. Occasionally I'll ponder what might have been if things had gone differently and feel a little bad.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

If there is a commercial failure of an IP, there is a good chance that its failure will be seen as the IP generally failing or falling out of poluarity instead of the failure to best utilize the IP that likely occurred.

For example, when EA released Tiberian Twilight and it was absolutely awful and didn't sell, they said that people just didn't want RTS games anymore and shelved the entire C&C franchise. That was fourteen years ago and we haven't had a new C&C since then that wasn't mobile shovelware.

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[–] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 52 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Are you guys surprised and angry that this generic movie for children isn't for you, or am I missing some context here?

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 92 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why can't the movie be for everyone like the game is? Why make it purposefully empty and soulless so only small children with a short attention span can enjoy it? Take some notes from the Lego movie. It's not that hard.

[–] 60fpsrefugee@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

For one, it is definitely easier/cheaper/faster to make that instead of a good, enjoyable movie.

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[–] gap_betweenus@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago (17 children)

The idea that children don't deserve good media is kind of wild to me.

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[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago

Do kids movies have to be stupid and vapid? This looks completely soulless.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why even bother making good movies, when children also watch elsa getting spiderman pregnant?

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[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

The fact that capital-G Gamers are still hell-bent on the GamerGate-era war against Kotaku is deeply amusing to me.

Gaming journos bad, something something.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 16 points 6 months ago

Sir, this is a good Pastafarian server, pls censor that filth. The childrens eyes can't handle the raw sewage that is the word g*mer.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

This is exactly what someone who works at or has friends that work at Kotaku would say.

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[–] mods_mum@lemmy.today 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What does one have to do with the other? Snow white is also a story for children and yet adults can still be disappointed about the upcoming remake. Are you suggesting we can't criticise content for kids? If yes then why?

[–] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

Criticise whatever you want, but your post is just a screenshot of a headline presented without context so I'm not even sure why you're upset

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, if you're going to make a movie based on a video game, shouldn't you aim it at The demographics that most commonly played that video game?

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 39 points 6 months ago (4 children)

You mean 5-12 year olds? Cause that’s what they did

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 25 points 6 months ago (13 children)

I feel like Minecraft has kind of lagged in popularity with the current crop of 5 to 12-year-olds compared to some of the newer games, like Roblox.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if it isn't meant for me, that's totally fine.

That also means it's not my fault when the thing that isn't meant for me doesn't get a audience, right? Right?

[–] hate2bme@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

It will have an audience.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It seemed like it would be a cheesey movie with some dry humor and I was okay with it up until the girl character called Jack Black "a massive toolbag." Thats not what I expect from a movie oriented to children, and that made me immediately drop any interest I had left. Then the rest of the trailer somehow got worse with the llama scene, whatever that was.

They should have made the movie animated in the same style as all their commercials, with the characters in a Minecraft style skin based on their real world appearance. Have them start and end in real life, whatever. But boy is this not going to be good.

This looks like the 90s Mario movie all over again. Or the Sonic movie -- before they fixed Sonic. Like, even the Resident Evil and Tomb Raider movies are probably better than this and those movies were generally very inaccurate to their source material, and not well receieved.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Why didn't they just make it a fucking animated movie?

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

By this logic: "The Borderlands movie isn't meant for you."

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[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 35 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Showed this to my kids. Their reaction was:

Kid 1: bruh

Kid 2: Is that the guy from Peaches?

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn't watch it even if the trailer was really good but....I'm gonna shit on it for looking awful, not being targeted towards adults. That opening green screen shot looks AWFUL. I said in another thread it reminds me of those old car commercial edits with the Mark guy. The perspectives of the camera vs the background don't seem to fit

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 months ago (6 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Its proof-of-concept. They're trying to get a movie out that's entirely tied to the brand, without spending a meaningful amount of money on scripting, art direction, location scouting, or talent. This is the future of AI Movies in a nutshell.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Great article, because it applies to anyone who reads it.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago (6 children)

It looks to be an acceptable movie in the same vein as minions to me. I really hope the plot won’t be as formulaic as it definitely is, because I’ll be compelled to watch it at some point.

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[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago

But the movie looks bad. That's why people are mad.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Of course not.

I have taste.

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