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[–] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 87 points 7 months ago (5 children)

One revolution I have realized in baking is the recent trend to start talking about weight and not volume in recipes for certain dry ingredients like flour. Three cups of fluffy sifted flour is a lot less flour than three cups of densely packed flour. Same with brown sugar, or wondering if you need a "flat teaspoon" vs. a "heaping teaspoon" of something.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yep, only liquids should be measured in volume, since liquids do not compress

[–] whenyellowstonehasitsday@fedia.io 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no thank you give me the measurement in weight so i can have a digital read on it and not have to use my disgusting human eyeball to estimate

also so that i don't have to re-wash and dry my one measuring spoon 5 times

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 17 points 7 months ago (4 children)

1L of water/milk = 1kg. This holds true for most liquids that are measured by volume in metric recipes.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Until one day you have to bake 3,000 Stroopwafels to save the local coffee shop** and you realize that your kitchen scale is about to become the stickiest object known to mankind because you don't know how much more liquids with super high viscosity weigh per liter..

**specific situation may vary based on how many tulips YOUR country produces per square kilometer.

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Deze commentaarsectie is hierbij overgenomen door het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden.

yeah it's what i use, but if i was happy with less than perfection i'd be using volume in the first place

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[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 12 points 7 months ago

Yep, everything in weight. It works so well.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

For using volume measurements (weighs are still superior tho) flour shouldn't be packed in but spooned into the measuring device and leveled with the back of a knife but brown sugar should be packed into the measuring device.

In recipes, they'll call for a heaped teaspoon or tablespoon, everything else is implied to be leveled, especially leavening agents like baking powder/soda. There's also an understanding that certain things don't need as much precision, like adding in flavoring extracts.

I also do really like the nice even 25° increments that recipes align to for farenheight.

[–] nawordar@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There is a Polish website https://kalkulatorkuchenny.pl/, where you type, say, 1 teaspoon of sugar (łyżeczka cukru) and it will convert it to mass, volume, spoon and number of glasses. I'm pretty sure, there is an English language alternative, but didn't find any

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

I assume flour can have a lot of moisture weight to it, which may change depending on the location or season. Weight is still the better measure, but still not perfect.

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Peel one cup of butter then add pinch of egg and stir counterfootwise at 363 degrees and serve immediately cold.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Congratulations, you've just created the most confusing recipe ever.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 7 months ago

USAmericans probably don't see a problem with it.

[–] Hope@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

Pfffft as though we'd be so sane as measure flour by weight instead of volume

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 23 points 7 months ago

Is the UN pushing imperial or something?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"I don't understand this thing and I'm proud of it!!"

  • Europeans
[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Bonus points if they get to shit on Americans at the same time.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There is no pride in understanding a nonsensical system of measurements.

Empathize with stupidity and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot

  • Iain M. Banks
[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You don't care about that, you just want to feel superior.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh no. I just want to be rid of the imperial system. I would have no issue with it if it wasn't a part of my life. Unfortunately I work in a field where imperial units are used world wide (apart from China and Russia for historical reasons). Because of this, I use some of those units myself every day at work. I understand some of them but take no pride in it. The only reason that the imperial system is still used so much is purely by convention. It is inferior to the metric system in every aspect. I do not feel superior to people who use imperial units because as stated above, I am one of them. People who I feel superior to are the ones who delude themselves into thinking that this somehow isn't purely because of convention. I dislike them because they are forced upon me by international conventions. OP appears to dislike them because recipes written in English force those units into their life.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Op is an idiot. If I read an article in German, which I don't understand, I don't rage about it. I either use a translator app or I find a different recipe.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Bear in mind that there are multiple countries where English is the largest language and metric is used, and that English is the modern lingua franca. It just so happens that the largest english speaking country has some weird ways to measure things. As such those weird measurements and associated conversions are often forced on anyone who wants to look for a recipe in English, be that their native language or not.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

the largest english speaking country

India?

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

Fair point. Rephrase: largest English speaking country by internet footprint, global influence or some similar measure.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ok that's a bit shaky but by the same token sometimes when I look up recipes there's metric measurements. It takes like 30 seconds to look up a site that does conversions.

Despite the stereotype by Europeans, Americans don't get all butthurt when we see metric. That's pure projection on the part of Europeans. We just take 30 seconds to look up a conversion and then get the fuck on with our lives.

Europeans flying into an incoherent rage when they see imperial units is just pathetic and childish.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I think you're taking the trollface in the meme a bit too literally. It's annoying and unnecessary, and can cause mistakes that wouldn't have been possible otherwise. Ahem, the Mars Climate Orbiter is a good example of a particularly costly one.

Nobody is flying into an incoherent rage. It's merely annoying having to accommodate the outdated quirks of one country. You having to do the opposite is quite reasonable on the other hand, because you're not accommodating the conventions of one country, but those of the rest of the world.

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[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Imagine being so small-minded that you refer to everything you don't understand as nonsense.

And thanks for the quote. Don't worry, I have no empathy for you.

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[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Imagine feeling actual hatred toward a system of measurement.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you would be a bit peeved as well if one guy in a lecture hall with 150 people constantly asked you to convert every measurement in your talk to something only that guy understands.

[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay but that has literally never happened. That's an absurd scenario you just proposed, you understand that, right? That's just a situation you made up to make yourself mad, like a toddler.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Maybe the problem is that the units are actually US customary and you're dicking up all of your conversions

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ah yes, the fartenheit scale

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

At least an oz is easily measurable. It's worse, when they tell You to add a cup of something.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 8 points 7 months ago

Are you using an American, Canadian, British or metric cup ?

Because they are all different measurements.

[–] suzune@ani.social 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

How? I have cups in my kitchen, but no ozes.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How do you measure a country so easily?

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[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I prefer using volumetric measurements like cups or teaspoons when baking. Liters or ml would also work.

Never understood how full a spoon should be

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hmmm yes flour is packed or unpacked? How dense?

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