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[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 103 points 6 months ago (4 children)

You should check with the road authority because they might be fake.

One day I was driving down a road that I'd driven down many times when I spotted a new speed limit. It was posted in a weird location and the speed was odd.

I contacted the local main roads department and learnt that they didn't know about these signs. The next day they were gone.

[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 63 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, having a minimum speed sign on a stroad is just begging for pedestrian deaths. It would be such an obvious liability that nobody in charge of transportation would allow it.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Every municipality has a minimum speed limit so you can’t just have someone driving 1km/h down the road creating a rolling blockade. Most are posted on the entrance into the municipality.

There are reasons for both sides to have and not have specific laws.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm a traffic engineer and I've literally never heard of such a thing (except on freeways).

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

In Georgia it's illegal to travel 15 or more under the posted speed limit, including on non interstate roads, unless otherwise posted.

Edit: getting downvoted for saying facts about my state. Yall are weird

[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Must make turning corners, parking and dealing with hazards a wild experience.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

No it isn't.

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In Sweden it can be illegal to drive too slowly. You're not allow to hinder trafic and should follow the speed limit. At the same time we have tractors and vehicles that are only allowed to drive in 30km/h but they require a special sign on the back to signal to other people that it's a slowly moving vehicle.

It's however incredibly rare that anyone gets a ticket for driving too slow.

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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Every municipality has a minimum speed limit

(X) Doubt

Here (California) it's "don't be an obstruction to traffic", so the speed you have to go at minimum depends on surrounding traffic and the situation and fluctuates, it's my understanding that this is how most places do it so that it's flexible

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

And on certain roads they set a specific limit, other times its blanket low amount to make things easier, or as you said, a non specific law, so they can ticket you for essentially anything instead…

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where are these municipalities?

These are US signs and this isn't a thing anywhere that I have traveled to across the US other than the 40 minimum on some interstates and highways.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Every municipality has some form of minimum speed law, do you want me to list every single one? You even provide an example of places they are used… and want to argue they don’t exist…? What?

Can you provide an example of a place without any minimum speed laws?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

In Kansas, every single street that isn't a highway, and most highways don't have minimums.

Outside of Kansas I have never personally seen them posted on anything other than highways either.

I have seen general traffic laws about not impeding traffic by going unreasonably slow, but no posted minimums.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Maybe brush up on your traffic laws dude

Kansas allows ANY municipality to set specific minimum road limits… look at that!

Again, can you provide a municipality or even a state that doesn’t have a minimum speed law? I’ve even made it easier for you.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Every municipality has a minimum speed limit

I don't think that you understand how 'slow speed as to impede' IS NOT A LIMIT.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

See law A, see law B if they want to specific.

And yes it is a limit, if you’re impeding, you’re below that limit. Some places also have adjustable signs to account for these potential scenarios.

You seem to fall in the category of people that need specific posted limits, since the concept of variable speeds seems to be lost on you. Just because it’s not posted on a sign, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist… shit take dude. Read your legislation, as well as the legislation of any places that you plan to travel too. Because you will be surprised by them amount of mundane shit you’ve missed and could be breaking the law without knowing.

And ignorance is never an excuse dude.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Reread your original post. You stated that the minimum speed is posted at the entrance to every municipality. These people are saying that they've only ever seen minimum speed signs posted on highways. Maybe that's what you meant, but your post sounds like it's posted on local roads all over the place.

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I love that you linked the exact proof that you're wrong, and still keep holding on. That is absolutely not a "Minimum Speed Limit." I really don't think you understand what "Speed Limit" actually means.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where I’m from it’s just 20 less than the max. Conditions apply but that’s because they reduce the max

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[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Freeways/expressways around me are 45 mph minimum. They are normally mounted below the limit sign.

https://www.twincities.com/2015/05/20/more-than-700-miles-of-interstates-in-wisconsin-to-be-70-mph/

But I have seen small tack on signs that are the same in most regards.

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:SPEED_LIMIT_75mph_MINIMUM_SPEED_50mph_NO_TOLERANCE.png

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

https://www.epermittest.com/road-signs/minimum-speed-limit

Supposedly minimum speed limit signs do exist in California? No issue with checking anyway, I was curious is all

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[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is 100% to make the city unwalkable

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemy.lol 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If you can't walk down a sidewalk with cars going by at 30mph then there's something wrong with you.

[–] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

30 mph is almost 50 km/h. In most of Europe the default maximum speed limit inside of populated areas is 50 km/h.

Default meaning artillery roads like this one can and almost always do have higher limits than 50, but the defsult maximum suddenly becoming the minimum makes no sense.

A road that isn't physically barricaded from foot trafic akin to a highway has no reason to have a minimum speed limit over 15 mph (30 km/h), if at all.

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[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

30mph (48kmh) is the minimum, cars will also be going faster than that. Also, people need to cross the street, not just walk alongside it. Regardless, whether drivers or pedestrians are the issue, accidents happen. They are more likely to happen, and more likely to be fatal as vehicle speed increases.

From the Institute for Road Safety Research, page 2:
"According to an overview of recent studies (Rósen et al., 2011): at a collision speed of 20 km/h nearly all pedestrians survive a crash with a passenger car; about 90% survive at a collision speed of 40 km/h, at a collision speed of 80 km/h the number of survivors is less than 50%, and at a collision speed of 100 km/h only 10% of the pedestrians survive."

Areas with minimum speeds of 30mph in areas with pedestrians accept that at least 1 in 10 will die. This is easily reduced to negligible fatalities by having lower speed limits. Not doing so says we care more about saving some of the drivers' time than the lives of pedestrians.

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Jesus. That Chevy is right up that guy's ass.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Welcome to driving in America.

Tbh I have no idea why so many people in this country tailgate. Do they not understand simple physics?

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

A relative of mine rear ended someone and couldn't understand why they were at fault for the accident. Just kept saying the person in front of them just stopped out of nowhere and there was nothing they could do.

People just don't realize they're supposed to give that much distance to the person in front of them. You're supposed to be able to stop without hitting the person in front of you if they, for any reason, stop without warning.

In my area the driving manual only discusses stopping/following distances for the commercial drivers license, not the standard drivers license

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Sorry for running over your child, ma'am, but rules are rules.

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I know here in Brazil there's a minimum speed limit on highways of 50% the max, but there are no signs, and it doesn't apply in heavy traffic.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (7 children)

That has to be a misprint or a photoshop. There is zero chance of a minimum 30 mph (or kph) inside city limits, especially with a perpendicular entrance/exit right there.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 months ago

Maybe the installer didn’t notice it said minimum haha

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[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

slow down to stop at traffic signal

car explodes like in speed

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

Lots of white knuckled old people and nervous drivers.

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Amish country in PA?

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe there’s a local problem with cruising for prostitution?

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I see your logic and had the same thought, but then wouldn't a "No stopping at anytime"/"No parking" sign accomplish the same thing? "No Loitering" sign as well. If the point is for the cop to be able to point to a sign, those already exist and are much more broad and easy to use(or misuse, depending on your perspective). Like others said, an absolute minimum speed limit seems destined to harm pedestrians. Plus, you can see it's before a stoplight. So not even logical.

I'm betting this is a fake sign.

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