I live in a swing state. Are we saying I could offer registered voters $20 for their signatures and turn a profit?
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Assuming Elon actually pays, sure.
Totally unrelated fun fact: Twitter HQ moved because Elon refused to pay rent and got evicted.
Good point.
I think it's drawn at porn/prostitution lines. You cant pay for a signature but you can pay someone to get signatures.
So report it to the FEC. What's the question?
https://www.fec.gov/legal-resources/enforcement/complaints-process/how-to-file-complaint-with-fec/
Not sure it breaks any laws, but I love how they show how slow the process would be. The election would be over before any of it mattered, and if Trump won, it's federal so he could pardon any of it.
See below. It would take minimum 50 days just to start the process... Which isn't even anything but letters at that point.
"Notice to respondents Within five days after receiving a proper complaint, OGC sends each respondent a copy of the complaint and a description of the Commission's compliance procedures. The respondent has 15 days from the date of receipt to respond in writing, explaining why no action should be taken. In the case of a complaint that does not satisfy the requirements, the respondent nevertheless receives a copy of the complaint and an explanation that the complainant has 15 days to correct the complaint. If the complainant corrects and refiles the complaint, the respondent is sent a copy of the corrected complaint and is given 15 days to submit a response to the Commission."
Paying people for votes is very much against the law. And Trump's shitty behavior doesn't really mean Elon's bullshit shouldn't be reported. You think Trump's going to pardon these morons for their participation? He pardoned two cabinet/campaign members from his original bid for office rather than the reelection debacle, both of which were from the Mueller investigation. He pardoned none of the co-conspirators for his 2020 re-election antics. Trump only does favors for people that are valuable to him, and Elon's worthless for anything but his money and his access to the raw twitter firehose.
corruption yes, but what's to stop an organized group, having one member refer the other hundred members, split the money, then not vote the way the pledge is implying they should. (democrats do support the Constitution, some could argue more than the maga lip service)
. * wink *
not saying anyone should do it... purely theoretical thought experiment
. * wink wink *
At best you’ll get a lifelong avalanche of mental illness-inducing spam to your mailbox, phone, text, and email.
At worst you’ll get money taken from your bank account without your knowledge. I wouldn’t trust anything that has to do with Trump with your bank account info, even as a joke.
I don't understand why Elon is fighting for free speech while at the same time banning people on his platform for saying certain words like cis, anything leftist and anyone saying anything bad about him. When Elon is so pro free speech, why not stop the censorship on his own platform?
Conservatives are passionate about "free speech" because "free speech" is much more politically viable than "calling people slurs".
Yeah I wonder.
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Same republicans froth at their mouth because “DeMoCraTS aRE BuSinG VoTErs!!!!!” without even a shred of proof
Providing rides to registered voters should be seen as a positive quality in a developed society.
I can't believe he's not offering $69 because he's a chud
Yes but also, some people in swing states are going to make a lot of money signing up registered never trumpers. If I'm any kind of large social group we're all signing it. Yeah we each only get 47 dollars but together we can make Elon hurt right in the wallet.
Every eligible voter in those states signing would be ~2 billion from some rough estimates.
Would be funny, but I won't get my hopes up on him paying out anything on that.
He is fighting for free speech as much as the Republic of North Korea is a republic.
I bet my home on that "free speech" means "people cannot call us racist for calling black people the N-word" in this case...
All I see is a big sign that says "Free $47, paid for by your sucker in chief"
His record of not paying bills makes that unlikely
Nah, it’s corruption only when poor people do it. When rich people do it it’s just “smart business”.
If he's anything like his new king, he won't pay a cent to any of the chuds that take him up on this offer
Do they have to be real people?
Yes, but they don't have to be red voters
Am I desperate enough to sell out for $47
Not yet...
sooo, if i send spam E-Mails to a bunch of american peoples, i get tons of money? i dont even need to be in the state? Ez
Wait. I get paid $47 to refer a friend to sign a petition to get bombarded with MAGA bullshit? Good thing. I am capable of making "real" good friends in swing states. I imagine they won't be bothered with getting spam emails.
Will you have to refund him when Trump loses?
Do this, and also do the Cards Against Humanity $100. https://www.apologize.lol/
What exactly do you mean by corruption?
America
What does it mean to register in America? If you're registered as democrat, what does that mean?
Only registered Democrats can vote in a Democratic primary election, where the Democratic party selects its candidates for a general election.
Only registered Republicans can vote in a Republican primary election, where the Republican party selects its candidates for a general election.
Party registration plays no role in a General election: you can vote for anyone, even if they are not a member of your own party.
Voter registration (as opposed to party registration) is simply a declaration of your residency and thus eligibility to vote in elections at the state, county, city, congressional district, school district, ward, and possibly even lower level elections. (Three homeowners on my small, dead-end dirt road are the only ones eligible to "vote" on whether a special tax should be assessed against our properties to pave our road. )
Not all states are like that, a few have open primaries.
Can you register with both parties? Choose the best candidate for your party in your primary and the worst viable candidate for the other one?
In 34 out of 50 states if you do NOT register, you can vote for any candidate in the primaries.
But you can still only request a ballot with one primary: you cannot select the best candidate for your party and the worst for the other.
In those states, the request for a particular ballot is, effectively, registering as a member of that party.
Nope. Primary elections are held simultaneously, and you are only allowed one ballot or the other. But it is a common practice to "sabotage" the other party rather than vote for your own.
American elections are not actually elections, they are private decisions made by Party Committees and votes are just a suggestion by the “constituents”.
Each party privately selects their own candidate to run, independent of the voters’ will, and then the actual “government” election run by the government is where those privately selected agents get to duke it out in public.
As always, liberal accusations of “authoritarian” socialist states are just another confession. The DNC plays this game the same way the RNC does.
What other logical explanation is there for the lack of universal public healthcare, education, social safety net, Roe v Wade not being codified into law, PATRIOT act, Glass Steagall repeal, 2008 bank bailout, SLABS imploding the economy, illegitimate Supreme Court, RBG and Pelosi holding onto power until they are literal corpses, 6 million dead civilians in the Middle East, 200,000 dead Palestinians, women’s and LGBT rights being stripped away with literally zero federal pushback, committing state sponsored terrorism on Cuba for a century, the list goes on forever.
All done with wholehearted and enthusiastic DNC complicity.
the closest involvement you've had to politics is a parade, isn't it
Buying votes.
The new banana republic: the Divided States of Banana - buy your votes here!