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[–] [email protected] 160 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The numbers are based on the number of cancellation emails that have been sent out, according to a source at the paper, though the subscriber dashboard is no longer viewable to employees.

Bozos doesn't like you looking at how badly he fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Do Amazon next. I plan to let mine expire. Amazon video is trash.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I don't think I've ever watched anything from Amazon directly.

Seen lots of their content though :) 🏴‍☠️

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

Seen lots of their content though :) 🏴‍☠️

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Arr, yarr, haharrr!

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Letting mine go. I kept it for Vox Machina, but I will acquire it other ways next season and support the team directly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yup, I'm not paying an extra $3/mo on top of what I pay for prime for no ads, I'll just not watch what's on your service. Not to mention, most of the filler movies/shows on all of these streaming services are garbage anyway. If it weren't for my wife, I would just have my Jellyfin server by itself.

If I lived anywhere near a city and not in the mountains, I wouldn't have prime either. It just saves too much time whereas my time is in short supply and I don't have it to make a 3 hour round trip run every few days.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Their subscriber numbers have been absolutely decimated by Bezos’ decision.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 8 months ago (8 children)

It’s down 10% which is the literal definition of decimated!

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (2 children)

CNN talks about WaPo getting a backlash for not endorsing, but says nothing about Bezos intervention, lol.

https://lite.cnn.com/2024/10/29/media/usa-today-gannett-newspapers-endorsement-president/index.html

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago

Just canceled prime too

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (5 children)

On the one hand, I know that the newspaper had done this for decades and stopped now...

On the other hand: If a big German newspaper recommended voting a specific person, this would be a huge scandal...

[–] [email protected] 68 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We have only 2 major parties and one has been a criminal enterprise for 56 years

  • Nixon Watergate
  • Reagan: sold drugs to buy guns for guys Congress said not to buy guns for because they were mass murderers
  • Bush Sr US: helped with above
  • Bush Jr faked evidence for a war which killed half a million people and cost 6 trillion dollars also illegally tortured
  • Trump do I even need to do this one?

At this point Trump wants to form militias to round up 25M people and drag them to concentration camps and turn the military loose on anyone who disagrees.

This includes 11M undocumented workers who almost all live law abiding lives and Americans who were born here from above who are by our constitution citizens regardless of the status of their parents.

He has publically called for violence, and end to our constitution, a new era where the dictator tells the government what the law is.

It is strange for any responsible party not to oppose essentially Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Opposing soneone is not unusual in Germany. Supporting one person or party is what does not happen here.

I'm not a fan of the orange one... Just telling about the German view on this..

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

With 2 parties supporting the other is the only way that you oppose the one.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The comparison doesn't work. In the US it is common practice that a newspaper gives a recommendation.

Also the US has a two party system. Compare this to Germany's multi party system. If you are undecided between to options a recommendation might help. If you are undecided whether you should vote the Greens or SPD a newspaper recommending CDU doesn't help you at all.

While it is not illegal for a newspaper to give a recommendation in Germany, it would be a scandal indeed. But the only reason for this would be that they didn't do it before. People are just complaining about changes like in this case as well

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which drives the partisanisation of the media. Bozo is right about one thing: the trust in media is at an all time low in the US and trust is build through accurate and unbiased reporting. Endorsing politicians is biased as hell.

The newspapers repudiation of a fascist in dangerous times would hit that much harder had they not endorsed other politicians in less dangerous times.

So now it's damned if they do, damned if they don't... swallow that pill they must at some point. But it would have been an easier pill to swallow after the rule of fascism in the US had been averted.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (4 children)

It's sad how much this will hurt good people who work for the Washington Post and how little this will affect Bezos.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If you still work at the Post after all this time it's kind of on you. They've had years to find employment at outlets that aren't a direct mouthpiece for Bezos.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure it's that simple. The job market isn't great right now, you're on a programming instance so I would think you would know that the job market is rough even for programmers right now.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Chump change for Bozos. Hardly a scratch

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I daresay this is the outcome he hoped for. Suddenly there are a bunch of open editorial author seats to fill. Taking bets on those seats being filled by people who don't lean quite so far to the left.

And a significant loss in subscribers? That's just the principled people fleeing who weren't gonna buy his nonsense either way. The people who stick around are the ones who are okay with billionaire interference in their news source, and those are the people Bezos wants as subscribers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

😔

Damn, that's quite plausible.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

And he doesn't give a shit. Subscribers don't matter, control of a well known paper that will push his interests does.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (11 children)

I don't really understand. A news outlet shouldn't be engaging in bias.

So it's unethical and propaganda when one endorses your opponent and just as much so when one doesn't do the same thing for yours?

In other countries, we call that hypocrisy or a 'doible-standard'. I believe I've heard Americans say something similar as, "Rules for thee but not for me."

The only thing that should be done is reporting on the other news outlet breeching journalism ethics or influencing in an election, because that's the news here.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Newspapers have a long history of publishing editorials and opinion pieces. Newspapers are rarely, if ever, pure, objective news. Endorsements fall under the editorial content. They are an established tradition.

When the owner dictates that no endorsement should be made because it conflicts with his views, that’s a problem. It’s not the editors with domain knowledge making the call but the self-serving business-man doing it. And it’s not for the good of the paper, it’s for his business interests and personal ideology.

That is the problem.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Not even just that, if this decision had been made last January, this wouldn’t be news, but the fact that it was made in the last few days in the run up to the election means that no matter how altruistic their decision was, it’s gonna be viewed in the light of the current moment.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Every previous election for a long time wapo has endorsed a candidate. The only reason they aren't is because of the second richest man in the world told them not to.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

1880 to 1968, no official endorsements for or against any presidential candidate

1972 anti-Republican endorsement

1976, 80, 84 pro-Democrat endorsements

1988 no endorsement

1992, 96, 00, 04, 08, 12, 16, 20 pro-Democrat endorsements

2024 no endorsement

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

I would consider all but 1 since 1972 to be a long time, it's longer than I've been alive.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This clown has done an insurrection, says he's allowed to kill political opponents, promises to be a dictator, says Haitians are eating cats. Among other things, that's nowhere near a comprehensive list. Any news outlet that is not explicitly saying "this is the worst choice for the country" is biased. It is an objective fact that Donald is the wrong choice.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This clown has done an insurrection, says he's allowed to kill political opponents, promises to be a dictator, says Haitians are eating cats. Among other things, that's nowhere near a comprehensive list.

It should have been over for him the moment he mocked disabled journalist Serge Kovaleski in November of 2015 in any reasonable society.

Some more links if anyone needs resources to share with people (don’t give up hope):

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Uhh, stating that Kamala Harris would make a better President than Donald Trump is a factual statement, not a biased one.

There is no objective measure to assess the performance of a President where Trump would exceed Harris.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Just so you know, Saltesc has made a string of bad faith comments that are pro right-wing bs.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Every news organisation is biased. The content they choose to emphasize, the time they spend on a subject, who they interview or what they say is all bias. How often they return to it or when it gets covered also show bias.

Bias in news is not automatically bad. Lying or false representation is. Somewhere in the recent past we swallowed some sort of pill making us think news agencies can't have a stance.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

So freedom of speech really is just a cudgel the right uses against the left? It's not really something they believe in.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Democracy dies in darkness

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I don’t really understand. A news outlet shouldn’t be engaging in bias.

I don't really understand. A commenter shouldn't so obviously have bad faith takes on their profile.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I believe not wanting to put the guy back in who did nothing as the Saudi's bone sawed one of your writers falls into; common sense.

Bozo thought his own op ed was more important than the journalism of his "editorial board", people who he presumably pays to write opinions. People who are journalists.

He thinks he's an astronaut and a journalist because he can buy rocket companies and papers, but he's a clown demonstrating his own lack of understanding of bias in plain English, his paper is worth but the circus music following him.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

All journalism has bias, it's literally impossible to not have a bias. It's how the journalist corrects that bias that is important. But understanding that might require nuance that you don't yet have.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I think what I look for is not being unbiased, but being independent. i.e. no conflict of interests, no direct relation with any political entities, not vested in the success of either side. And WaPo has failed that.

And stop pretending both sides are equal. Endorsing Trump is unethical.

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