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I am starting the process to immigrate to Canada from the US. Maybe unsurprisingly I find I have no ideas where I would like to live. I do enjoy mountains, and don't want to be in the heart of a city. (sh.itjust.works)

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I definitely require high speed internet access. Other than that, I could use some help! EDIT: Mountains are not a deal breaker. Water would be nice, but sea level rise is a concern.

EDIT: Oh, Come ONNNN!!!!

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/who-republican-senators-react-to-trumps-nomination-of-fox-news-host-as-secretary-of-defense/

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Canada’s about to elect our own right wing version of Trump. So if you’re looking to escape that by moving here… don’t be too optimistic.

BC almost went conservative provincially in the last election. Alberta and Saskatchewan are batshit insane conservative. Manitoba used to be but they’ve gone centre left. Ontario conservative corporate. Quebec… I’m not going to touch that one. And then the east which I don’t have a ton of feedback on personally.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, OP would be better off trying to move to Scandinavia

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Coming next there too

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Québec: the only province expected to NOT vote conservative in the next federal elections. Also the province expected to vote for a center-left government for the next provincial elections. But go on I guess...

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

The east coast has some very affordable housing especially compared to Ontario and BC. For example, there are suburbs or small towns within 30 minutes or less from Moncton and Halifax. Gives access to city resources without having to live in the city.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

That Pierre Poilievre is such a walking red flag. The way he talks down to journalists is very telling of his personality. Dude rolls his sleeves up and smiles in ads but he's unhinged

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

There’s right wing and then there’s MAGA. Have you read up on Project 2025? Is abortion legal in Canada?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Pollievre is a snivelling rat man, but anyone who claims he's equivalent to Trump needs to turn off their screens

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

He is, but the same forces that are pushing project2025 and are puppetering Trump are also active in the CPC.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Hah for now it is….

You also have Danielle Smith (Alberta Premier) cozying up to Tucker Carlson, Poilievre (National Conservative Party leader) and the convoy, India and Russia.

And GOP operatives who coincidentally, I’m sure, also supported the convoy.

Canadian right wing influencers caught up in the Russian payment scandal.

I don’t believe for a second that Pierre and elements of the federal conservative party wouldn’t want to get rid of our rights in Canada. It’s just unpopular to say that part out loud.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Interestingly, all of my heritage on my mother’s side is French Canadian. Unfortunately, the last one born there, according to the family history I could find was prior to 1900, so that probably doesn’t really help me much at all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

There was a huge exodus at the time with French education becoming illegal in some provinces and French Canadians not being allowed to work (similar to what happened to the Irish), my grandfather learned he was born in the USA when he got his passport at 65 y.o., his parents just came back while he was an infant and they never talked about the years they had spent in the USA to work.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Quebec… I’m not going to touch that one.

Damnit now I'm curious.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Just invent a bunch of racist stuff towards the French Canadian minority and you'll have an idea what most Anglo Canadians think of Quebec for daring to protect the French Canadian culture.

Ever heard of Lord Durham? You would believe the guy is a freaking hero to them.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

In the 1970s there was a domestic terror group who wanted to separate from Canada so bad they started assassinating politicians and our current PM’s dad, who was also PM at the time, had to call in the army.

Their provincial politics are confusing because it’s not liberal/conservative spectrum - you also have to throw in the Quebec nationalists too. Like their ruling provincial party right now is conservative + Quebec Nationalist to the extreme that businesses must provide public advertising/public facing services in French only.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

The CAQ (ruling party) are NOT extreme separatists, and the law 101 that has french be prioritized in public advertising and facing services has been passed in 1978 to protect our cultural heritage. Otherwise yeah politics are spicier because of the separatist background which is still an ongoing question, but the whole thing still takes place on a very recognizable pattern of centre right liberals, conservatives, and libertarian-ish parties, with the occasional left leaning but still center crew.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

"they started assassinating politicians"

One of them, not intentionally, and they took full credit for it as if they had intentionally murdered him. They kidnapped a second one that didn't die.

Quebec Nationalist to the extreme

The current ruling party is Federalist and no more nationalist than any other provinces' party in the way they act with the federal government and in the way they act towards people of other culture, in other provinces they just do it covertly.

businesses must provide public advertising/public facing services in French only.

That's false, advertising must be in French first and French service must be available but nothing keeps businesses from offering service in any other language they want.

If all your knowledge of Quebec comes from the racists on /r/Canada you can just keep your opinion to yourself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You know as well as I do that if you’re not a French speaker in Quebec that you’re a second class citizen in the eyes of the government (and many of the population).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I mean... Yeah, the official language is French, any other language is provided at best effort. The only places that are officially bilingual in Canada are New-Brunswick and the federal government, and even that would be a stretch (federal government). Would you expect to be treated as a first-class citizen while not speaking a word of Italian in Italy?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

You try living anywhere else in Canada without speaking English and come back and tell me you're a first class citizen. Get off your high horse.

NB (the only bilingual province) just got rid of a premier that was the member of an anti French party in the 80s/90s: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Brunswick_Confederation_of_Regions_Party

In 1985, Higgs handwrote a brief and presented it to the Guérette-Smith Commission, starting it by praising the United States for being "united under one flag, one government, and one language,” adding that “we will never achieve such a level of loyalty and unity when at the same time we embark on a process supporting two different cultures.”[9] In 1989, Higgs ran for the leadership of the CoR Party.[3] In his bid for the COR leadership, Higgs "complained about francophones 'who can speak the common language, but refuse to'".[14] He also supported an elected Senate, opposed the Meech Lake Accord, favoured fixed terms for government, and stated "We do not have an obligation to cater to those people who can speak the common language, English, and refuse to do so".[15]

Which province has the highest level of bilingualism? Quebec. Not New-Brunswick. Quebec.

https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/as-sa/98-200-x/2016009/98-200-x2016009-eng.cfm

So do you really think we're not accommodating enough?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Little did you know that the separatist movement is largely a left-wing one, driven mainly by the PQ (center-left) and QS (left). The center-right (CAQ, PLQ) and right (Conservative) parties oppose the separation of Québec and want to stay in Canada.

You seem to think that we are some kind of crazy schizos that want to eliminate every foreign person around, and its absolutely false. We just want to be able to keep our language and culture alive. 8M people in Québec vs 400M in Canada + USA, and the rate of french-speaking people is declining at an alarming rate. Think about that for a second. All the people saying we are racists and whatnot don't seem to realize that being a minority is not reserved for people with dark enough skin colour. In the end, you are the racist ones, trying to assimilate us for 400 years. Bunch of hypocrites.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago (9 children)

It you're leaving for progressive reasons, Alberta is north Texas. BC is pretty progressive, although I don't know how they lean outside of metros. I have my suspicions though.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Small town and rural BC is very close to Alberta. They got a bulk deal on Fuck Trudeau stickers for their trucks.

I mean, honestly, that’s true for the entire country.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

True pretty much everywhere. Rural folk dislike the government and prefer to rely on themselves. They're right wing. City folk do the opposite.

That pattern is followed almost everywhere, from America to Canada to Australia to Finland.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Yeah, that is what I assumed

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

This is very helpful, thank you. I am super liberal.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

You're going to want to stick to cities for the most part.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (17 children)

If you want to be near mountains, want affordable living and are progressive, Lethbridge, AB may be your best bet. The landscape there is a bit weird. Looks kind or like Iceland or something. Super hilly with big valleys and very few trees outside or the city, but definitely not a big city vibe like you'd find in Edmonton or Calgary.

Pretty mild climate too.

But the Alberta government is fucking idiotic, so I can't say what will happen in the future with healthcare and human rights.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (15 children)

Don't come to Canada. If I was able to leave this country, I would. We have so many of the same problems as the US. I would go to Europe

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

I would go to Europe

Lol, as if the right isn't on the rise pretty much everywhere and WW3 is brewing in our own back yard..

Capitalism is decaying in to fascism globally and rapidly. Wherever you go in the world, you WILL be up against varying levels of the same bullshit, and while I understand less bullshit is easier to live with, without active resistance, it becomes more bullshit real fucking quick, and you'll be back where you started.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

How much money do you have?

The only affordable places left are absolute shitholes

If money is no object, move to Victoria

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

Let’s say I make $90k US dollars a year, and I work remote

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You'll still need a work permit to work in Canada, even for a US company remotely. So hopefully you're up to speed on that process. In terms of where to live, there are some places in BC outside major cities that are affordable. Might be worth taking a road trip around to check some out

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I’m in the midst of the process. Road Trip Sounds good. How’s the weather in BC in December? 🤭

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Like Washington but colder

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Will you be able to work remote from Canada?

That's enough money to live basically anywhere. 90k usd is a lot more money than most people make in Canada.

If I could live anywhere and work remote it would probably be Masset, Ucluelet, Nelson, or maybe Whitehorse if you don't mind the cold. Victoria if you really want city

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I wouldn't get my hopes up, you want to come here and still work for your current US employer? What does Canada have to gain from that? You're not coming to fill a gap for us, you want to move to reap the benefits without any direct involvement.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean OP would be paying taxes here and spending money in our economy, while not taking an existing job. That's pretty good.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (5 children)

If you want mountains, you're kinda limited. Vancouver, BC, has great mountains, ocean, and forest access, but COL is pretty high for Canada. Calgary, AB is the closest city to the Canadian Rockies, but is in the middle of nowhere elsewise.

If you're looking for good internet, though, you're going to want Vancouver or Toronto. Those are the tech hubs of Canada.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (8 children)

You aren't going to find mountains in any of the parts of Canada that you'll want to live in. BC is trending right, Alberta and Saskatchewan are the right (Alberta is the Texas of Canada), Ontario is a shit-show, and Quebec is... Well, how good is your French?

I'd suggest PEI or Nova Scotia and satellite internet.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Nelson BC

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you vegan? I'm looking for a vegan roommate and I live downtown city of a hundred thousand and fifty ish.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Sorry, I don't have a recommendation, but I will warn you against Alberta. I've lived here my entire life here and I love this land, but it's getting more dangerous here for queer folks. BC could be a consideration if you can afford housing there.

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