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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 165 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Good job everyone who sat out or voted 3rd party this election. You saved Palestine!

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I dont think those protest voters were significant, people just think "food didnt get cheaper" and didnt felt like voting anymore. Thats your average voter mindset.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's funny how they consider they had massive impact until there are consequences to their actions. Then, it wasn't much.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone sincerely believed that protest voters were ever going to have a significant impact. I think all of the noise you heard was astroturf designed to knock Harris from both sides of the Israel political position.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 11 points 5 months ago

At most it cost her Michigan. There were deeper issues with the campaign.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While ignoring that for most people, their purchasing power also went up.

They want to pay pre-pandemic prices for food while making post-pandemic paychecks, and there's no way that's going to happen without guillotines. So instead they voted in the wealthy assholes who directly caused COVID and indirectly caused inflation/greedflation because surely those people won't do that again, right?

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[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kilometers_OBrien@startrek.website 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thanks BIDEN (you know, the current POTUS).

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[–] simplymath@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] ptz@dubvee.org 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you really think he changed his stance since then?

He's also the new US ambassador to Israel. That's from 2 hours ago.

[–] simplymath@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I do not think he changed his stance, but I'm not sure how it's relevant to the election.

The number of pro Palestinian people was a statistical blip outside of Michigan and certainly did not change the election.

I really hope the Dems reflect on why AOC was re elected in a district that swung heavily towards Trump instead of doubling down on their clear and tangible resentment of working class people.

Mike Huckabee is detestable, but that doesn't make the current policies better. When it comes to genocide, splitting hairs misses the point.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I do not think he changed his stance, but I’m not sure how it’s relevant

Lol

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm really sick and tired of head-in-the-sand liberals pushing us over the cliff to fascism and then having the utter fucking gall to try to gaslight us that it's our fault, not theirs.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m really sick and tired of head-in-the-sand liberals pushing us over the cliff to fascism and then having the utter fucking gall to try to gaslight us that it’s our fault, not theirs.

When you decide that the better option is getting out of the car and jumping off of the cliff yourself, that's when it starts being your fault.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

And I didn't (I voted for Harris, and also kept my mouth shut about her sprint to the right, like a good little Democrat, until after the election).

So you can take that accusation and fuck all the way off with it.

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[–] simplymath@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

lol. Ok. love the downvotes. The Dems have learned nothing since 2016. Blaming the voters for not cosigning piss poor policy and unpopular decisions, while gaslighting thr working class about all time economic highs based on shit like stock prices and CPI when the latter number intentionally neglects to measure housing, food, or energy costs. You know, the things that make up the majority of expenditures for the class of people who overwhelmingly swung towards Trump.

Go ahead. Call me a deplorable. I'll be volunteering in the refugee camps like I have been since 2017. Will you? Or will you continue to attack marginalized people for pulling the only lever they have?

God knows the 2nd option hasn't worked and lost the Dems north of 60% of all Latino voters. But surely it's hundreds of millions of people that are wrong about feeling trapped by an economic system designed to turn their bodies into profit for billionaires.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (30 children)

Or will you continue to attack marginalized people for pulling the only lever they have?

Well they had 2 levers, really. If you ignore the primaries

God knows the 2nd option hasn't worked and lost the Dems north of 60% of all Latino voters. But surely it's hundreds of millions of people that are wrong about feeling trapped by an economic system designed to turn their bodies into profit for billionaires.

The dems have lost so much Latino (and African American) votes because the GOP quite correctly identified that they could sway huge amounts of them with core religious and conservative messaging. 'No rainbows' and 'no abortion' seems to have turned more of them at very low cost compared to convincing them Trump has the right economic voodoo. Big chance those kind of voters are never coming back, regardless of their economic situation

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[–] krelvar@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

I'm sure he's a kinder, gentler Huckabee nowadays.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 5 months ago

Because Bidens policies that Kamala guaranteed to continue were going to save them?

Maybe a few more behind the scene tut-tuts and billions of arms to Israel would have helped.

Good job every Dem who supported Israel, good job for taking millions and millions in ~~lobbying~~ bribes. At least your pockets are fat.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Joe Biden is still president and over 200 children were slaughtered since the election. Tomorrow is the deadline he gave Israel for letting aid into the north of Gaza, but he will not enforce it because he also believes that there are no such thing as Palestinians and that they should die, leave or live as subjects to Jews so that Israel can annex all territory the Bible grants it.

[–] simplymath@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I found this video to be very helpful for understanding what happened last week even though it predates the election by some years.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

https://youtu.be/3cdqQ2BdgOA?si=Quu3uCr8FEPUlTGr

Time traveler here, someone wrote a song about you in 1966

I vote for the democtratic party

They want the u.n. to be strong

I go to all the pete seeger concerts

He sure gets me singing those songs

I'll send all the money you ask for

But don't ask me to come on along

So love me, love me, love me, i'm a liberal

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Go away. This is so bad.

I'm serious... Save yourself and delete this.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago
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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 64 points 5 months ago

Your new Ambassador to Isreal.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago

Middle to Low Income Americans: fucked

Palestinians: eradicated

Separation of Church and State: homogenized

1%ers: completely torqued

The NWO is here, the Rubes just forgot to mention it was them and the capitalists enacting it not the illuminati

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

All the ghouls crawling back out from under rocks

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

They weren't hiding, they just stopped screaming long enough to get a good breath of air for the next scream.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Crawling back out from the February 24, 2015 rock.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Based on the need for ancient history to claim a people, there's no Americans either. Does that mean we give everything back to the indigenous people? I hope so. Also even if they're Arabs as you say, that doesn't mean you can just murder them indiscriminately like this.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, an American politician should be wary of making the argument that non-ancient roots in an area make their claim on their land default.

Honestly, I have trouble dealing with the irony that American politicians are pro-zionism becuase Jews used to hold the land a long time ago until they were outcast from their homelands aand forced to move far away, displacing Palestinian people that live tthere now in the process.... and then think that Native American sovereignty (let alone their claim to their historical lands that were stolen from them) are ridiculous and unfair to contemporary US citizens that live here now.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

No it's okay we have nukes.

I'm trying to be satirical but I can't really think of another argument

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

This guy is about to become Ambassador to Israel btw

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is from 2015, just, y'know.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure he's changed his mind on the subject since then.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh.

Got any updates from Mike Huckabee for us that show a change in stance?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago
[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Article from 2015

Not that his opinions have likely changed, but please tell people if you're sharing older news articles.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not that his opinions have likely changed

Exactly

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Misinformation is still not ok.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

It's not misinformation.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

No such thing as a Huckabee either.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Oh shit, that’s the first person I ever voted against! As a 17 year old I registered as a republican specifically because I hated him.

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