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I want to see the unfolding of a scorching romance between two partners, each not knowing that the other is an AI.
New on NBC this spring. Tune in for the drama. AI vs AI Romance Island Server Room.
Here's is a movie plot for you
Two sentient AI forces into the industry of artificial partners meet and develop human emotions
Fill in the gaps
I have been saying for a while, I think hyperealistic vr and believable AI personalities are going to be the 'great filter' that limits advanced civilization.
Given the chance to have your sexual and emotional fantasies fulfilled in a satisfying way, many many people will take it. Especially when 'real life' is getting harder with everything from the cost of living making the dream of 'married with home and children' less obtainable to hyper competitive online dating disenfranchising increasing proportions of both men and women.
Having a believable relationship with AI is far closer than we think. It doesn't have to perfectly replicate real life, it just has to be satisfying enough in a few key ways that people begin to prefer it.
Given the chance to have your sexual and emotional fantasies fulfilled in a satisfying way, many many people will take it.
Obviously. But I haven’t yet seen anything from an AI that could fulfill either.
Depends on how low your standards are. I mean, there were [a small number of] people who convinced themselves that the 1960s chatbot ELIZA was a person with feelings, and the bots have only become more convincing since then. I can certainly see the modern ones fulfilling the emotional needs of someone who really, really wants to believe they're speaking to a sapient being who cares about them, and as for the other, well, some people have pretty low sex drives or find phone sex fulfilling enough (at least for a time).
You're looking at the AI equivalent of where stop frame animation was in 1930. It's a few years old and rudimentary. Give it 80 years. That's the time frame I was talking about.
50 years ago people saw the advancement of cars and assumed we’d have flying cars by now. Nobody predicted computers would be as ubiquitous as they are. The best method we have of drying clothes is still blowing warm air through them thousands of years later. Advancement isn’t guaranteed.
The problem is that a lot of men find real women scary.
Their idealised partner is, more or less, already a sexbot. A woman who dwmurely laughs at their jokes, listens intently when they talk, and showers them with praise.
They're not looking for intelligence, humour, independent thought, creative expression; those things terrify them. They're looking for a sexy lamp that asks them how their day went. If it can cook, clean the house, and do all the other things mommy used to do, so much the better.
Sounds like femcel commentary, no offence.
I personally agree that this is a kind of a regulator.
Like what Tao Te Ching says. Humans shouldn't have too much of what they desire. Such a reality in some area fails them as an opportunity to learn. It's also a dead end - you can't have children with a robot. You can't grow children with a robot, or maybe you can, but it will not be sufficiently complex and it will have different criteria of success.
But this doesn't limit advanced civilization.
It's just that in these things we are trying to cheat. Advancement to AGI, if it ever happens, should be done in its own turn. We have means to solve a lot of purely technical problems, but we haven't yet. There's no reason to hurry with AGI.
The reason Europe has conquered the world was that European cultures had this respect to simplicity, born from Christian morality, but also respect to choice and logic. Remove any one of these three, and you lose that power.
Europeans had sometimes less sophisticated technologies in any particular area than, say, China or Safavid Persia or Ottomans or Southeast Asian nations or even at some point some African nations. But what they had was complete and comprehensive system, civilization as a whole. They always had the lower level of the building finished before going to the next one.
This was due to that Christian modesty combined with antique philosophy.
I also think we've diverted from that relatively recently - around the dotcom bubble crash, maybe. I think it had deeper implications than what people think, because the trust into said philosophy started eroding at that very point. Which created imbalance in favor of forces less affected, like Microsoft and others, who have eroded it further, and the "good" forces, like Sun or Compaq or Motorola or what not, have contributed more into it with their attempts to survive after the 90s than they would if they'd die with the crash immediately, because they showed the public something that looked like a loss in honest competition.
Spending all time dating AI partners means that we have achieved labor post scarcity. If labor post scarcity isn't achieved, then it means you have to do a job to survive (like now), thus not spending entire time with AI partners.
Achieving labor post scarcity means that scientific progress too would stop being connected with the economic productivity of individuals. Basically, AI scientists. Scientific progress means expansion of humanity through space.
Therefore, your great filter idea doesn't really hold imo.
Spending all time dating AI partners means that we have achieved labor post scarcity
Bit of a weird non sequitur
What I'm saying has nothing to do "labour post scarcity"
I'm referring to immersive VR and AI overall contributing to a falling birthrate. If immersive realities become truly immersive, it's reasonable to believe they will occupy leisure time. This has nothing to do with people's relationship to work. They'll still need to be economically active, whether or not this takes place in the VR is neither here nor there.
It's a point about what people will do with their time when they are lonely, want connection, or pleasure. And if VR / AI (whatever other technologies) becomes believable and more satisfying then there's little reason to believe people will continue the "unreliable" tradition of dating. And even less to engage in the mucky and very biological habit of reproducing.
Witness Japanese culture. And then just add 100 years of immersive believable AI personality and sexual fantasy. Do you think that will make people get married and have babies or do you think it will help them being content being single and childless?
Your conclusion is based upon an assumption that we need more humans to progress as society. If AI develops to the point where it is better as a partner than a human being, it likely means that we have achieved, or are very close to achieving labor post scarcity (the assumption being that an AI capable of achieving this is capable enough to do most/all human work).
When we achieve labor post scarcity, the number of humans has nothing to do with progress. Therefore, falling birthrates won't have any negative effect on progress.
When we achieve labor post scarcity in the medical field, life expectancy would increase, with us achieving biological immortality at a certain point. This means, that death rates also go down.
Considering the above, I thought you were referring to "dating and fucking AI partners" as the end of human progress (presumably because of a lack of any motivation to cause any more development). That's what my reply was talking about.
You know, the way this toxic bro culture has evolved, let them build their own romantic partners if actual human women aren’t good enough for them.
Personally, I love my authentic, human, beautiful complicated and unusual wife. I didn’t get to create her, but I’ve gotten to spend almost 20 years figuring her out and it’s been pretty great.
Yeah I can’t imagine wanting perfect and take over the weird dweeb I managed to fall in love with.
Futurama warned us about this!
Came here to say just that. Mr CEO over not thinking this would happen is just detached from the world.
Lonely people aren't lonely by choice a lot of the time, they just can't find a place they fit in. You find out there is a place you can chat with "someone" that understands and that is all it takes.
DON'T DATE ROBOTS!
"FILL UP PHILIP J FRY!!!!"
I’m not sure one of the most evil people on earth is in a position to be dictating human values to anyone.
The real question is are sex dolls good enough? Because you cannot have sex with an AI girlfriend.
Guys is there a way to use complex filtering on the Boost app. Maybe a regex? I wanna be able to filter all headlines that include the phrase Google CEO unless it also contains the phrase 'head explodes'.
If(match(/.*(Google CEO).*(head explodes).*/gi,title_text)){pass}
I'll take projection for 100, Alex
I don't think this is a problem specific to men or adults primarily but children growing up with them. That is if they'll continue to improve drastically which won't necessarily happen.
20 years later, the last fertile guy cums one last time. Elon is there to catch the golden cum. He must save the world by reverse engineering one semen into an egg. If he can find one, he can bring us back! But so far, it has just been blanks after blanks. This could be it! Imagine all the tits and pussy that could be automatically grown! We're gonna be millionaires! Women, the ultimate product!....if they can bring them back from extinction.
Wish he would fuck off along with the rest of the CEO class .
I don't fuck with AI chat bots but I got a he'll of a lot less lonely when I stopped giving a fuck if I had a girlfriend or not. Giving people alternatives to the toxic dating culture of today may not be such a bad thing.
Perfect AI boyfriends are the bigger threat to young men
A VR girlfriend can’t make you soup when you’re sick or stick her cold feet between your thighs. Carrying heavy objects for a girlfriend is a reward in itself.
Eh, young women have been lusting after fictional characters like Mr Darcy, likely for as long as we've had literature.
These fictional characters can talk back, but it's not really anything new.
It's too late. Real women don't even want us. Where do i sign up for that AI girlfriend?
If real women don’t like you, that’s a You issue. Make yourself a better person that other people - aka women - want to be around.
Herbivores are a thing in Japan... it's a way to curb humanity's growth i guess.
Does anyone care what this guy says about anything? He is in the news every week with his more or less obnoxious opinions about random stuff. Can we just ignore him?
