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No shit. I don't consider the US to be my ally either, and I live here (in the US).
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I don't consider the US to be my ally either, and I'm a US citizen in the EU
That’s exactly what Russia and gang had planned (among other things); well played….sadly…
Yeah, really. It's all really going according to plan. We're completely fucked and everyone was fooled to play right into it.
It's sad to see how easy you can make the masses care for the wrong things, if you tackle their most basic fear instincts.
everyone was fooled
Nah mate, no one was fooled. One side tried to keep the country, the other side tried to tank the country because "trans migrants"
One side won, now theyre tanking the country
I agree.
Both, the trans & immigrant hate was fueled by the far right & russia most probably helped. It fits.
The fooled ones, were the ones like my father. He never even cared if someone was trans. He did not refrain from making some distasteful jokes, but they were naive and almost good hearted.
Now he bursts out at least once a day, about how trans are endangering society. What shocks me is the hate, like "kill them all" "drag 'em truth the streets" and all that shit. He never was like that before.
And this is just one example of things he started like obsessing about. Reading about right wing shit on Lemmy, just to hear the same views from my father later on the phone. But he was defending those views.
Social media echo chambers seem to have a much more extreme effect on everyone.
They fell hard for the "trans migrants", "migrants take your job" and " migrants lazy", because they were bombarded with mind blowing "facts".
But that's just my opinion, what i come up with in my head, trying to understand myself why things took the wrong turn.
I dont want to assume i understand them better than you do, but having family members that are going through the same thing, it seems much more likely that theyve always been of the "us vs. them" mentallity and now theyve simply been convinced that 1. "Them" is minorities and 2. Their hate is now socially acceptable because back in 2016 we elected the epitomy of hate as a joke
The thing is, he never was so involved with politics. Never obsessed over anything in life.
Yeah and? The US was never a friend of Europe, they just saw us as a colony and battleground, see shit like Operation Gladio.
Is it in our reciprocal interests to be allies against the other world powers? So far yes, but the way the US is going, that's changing, and it's definitely not our fault.
I mean, yeah? That seems like an obvious takeaway, at least for the remaining liberal democracies in the Union. The US is clearly not within that category, it aligns closer to Russia or Hungary.
The questions is whether the EU can stop sliding in that direction itself, not whether the US is "its most important ally". That ship has sailed.
MAGA/Trump winning in 2016 shocked us, to that point the US was seen as a weird but stable ally, we grew complacent since the US was run by predictable people, who's interest for their country mostly aligned with our interests.
Then a collected psychosis took over the US, MAGA, and with that came Trump, a president who is actively sabotaging their country for their own personal short term gains.
Now obviously those kinds of leaders are common, even in the West, but in general they do it quietly, while still appearing to care.
Trump came in and broke the rules, he pissed all over his country and it's allies (remember at the start of his presidency when there was this whole thing about him trying to establish dominance by squeezing the hands of other leaders when shaking their hands?), he pissed all over the environment, science and healthcare.
The unspoken rule was that, yeah idiots like that exists, but they never come to power.
Expect he did, and that showed the allies of the the US that the US is not as reliable as we thought.
The political ocean is storming, and the next guy to helm the U.S.S. USA. seems to think it is funny to cause wake and ride the most dangerous waves erratically.
I hope that the current administration manage to find a safe harbor before ending their shift despite that plenty of crew members are working on sabotaging the engine.
Around 49% believe Washington is no longer their most important ally, instead preferring other countries, such as the UK (13%) or China (10%).
UK okay but China? Lmao. Also it has shit like Brazil in there lol
I mean how big is the list of non-US EU allies anyway?
Good. Now issue sanctions plz
It's hard to miss Putin's smirk in his latest TV appearances.
It only took like 400 years of cooperating on racist violence around the planet... Before USA became too shitty for even the other colonizers. This kind of "progress" is too slow to save the planet.
Oh there are several EU nations just waiting to pounce on our inevitable tumble from the world stage. Spain, France, Portugal, and Italy are working behind the scenes to strengthen ties with their past colonies in Central and South America so when Trump actually starts bombing them because of "the war on drugs" and "migrant crisis" they'll offer direct and indirect support. (up to be including Nuclear weapons.) Other nations want nothing more to be the first one's in control of Nuclear weapons in Central and South America. This would weaken American control over two of the fastest growing and most profitable continents on the planet outside of Africa. Suddenly, Spain and Portugal for example would have access to Venezuelan oil without worrying about US sanctions and economic threats while having Venezuela as a pseudo colony again. (Trump already tried overthrowing Venezuela once with private military forces.)