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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!

Rules

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


0.5 [Provisional Rule] Use alt text or image descriptions to allow greater accessibility


We require alternative text (from now referred to as "alt text") to be added to all posts/comments containing media, such as images, animated GIFs, videos, audio files, and custom emojis.
EDIT: For files you share in the comments, a simple summary should be enough if they’re too complex.

We are committed to social equity and to reducing barriers of entry, including (digital) communication and culture. It takes each of us only a few moments to make a whole world of content (more) accessible to a bunch of folks.

When alt text is absent, a reminder will be issued. If you don't add the missing alt text within 48 hours, the post will be removed. No hard feelings.


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.


2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such


That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.


That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


4. No Bigotry.


The only dangerous minority is the rich.


5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)


6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



  1. Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I got banned from /c/news for "advocating" violence after making a joke about not being able to identify the suspect in the UnitedHealth CEO thread.

Edit: Remember violence is reserved for the government to oppress people. You are supposed to just sit there and take it.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Same. Joked about starting a gofundme for the shooter. I thought better of Lemmy. Ah well.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Just like reddit it's all about who's the mods/admins.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

News mods are the most thin skinned mods I see on lemmy

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's a reason most of us have .world instance blocked.

I'm sure there's some poor mod on there in a community that just unfortunately was started on there, but genuinely it's a better lemmy experience without.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The people talking in this particular thread, and OP, kind of seem like they don’t realize Lemmy isn’t just Lemmy.world.

Like does OP realize that this community is on db0 and isn’t subject to the rules on the .world instance?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

I got banned for the same thing as well idgaf. /c/News and /c/worldnews are liberal hell holes anyway

[–] [email protected] 103 points 3 months ago (12 children)

It’s not against the TOS. You can advocate for violence against the poor and minorities all day on here. But advocating for them to defend themselves is apparently over the line.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Notice how hard they’re going after the shooter? The NYPD is actually making an effort for once and the FBI is involved even though there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that this is a federal matter (has the shooter crossed state lines? Has the victim’s civil rights been violated?). We’ve always known that law enforcement is for them and not us but it’s pretty blatant.

I’d say “you get what you pay for“ but the C suite doesn’t pay taxes.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

It would be funny if people spammed the tip lines with thousands of fake sightings of the guy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

They're offering a 10k bounty for anyone with good intel. But I'm pretty sure nobody saw anything.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (11 children)

I’ve noticed most communities have been overtaken by, at best, centrist mods. Most of whom have power issues, and ban for personal reasons. Looking at you JonsJava, jeffw.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Huh

I say some wild shit and they just tell me to stop wilding

Except for FlyingSquid, because he doesn't want to admit Israel is using religion as an excuse for genocide for some weird reason.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Oh yeah them too.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (4 children)

just pointing out that this type of censorship goes hand in hand with attempting to defed/disaggregate .world from the more left wing lemmies.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I assume you mean the ML and Hexbears, who are dedicated to the fall of the west at any cost, including lives.

So, I can understand how people wouldn’t want to be federated with that sort of parlor pink bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

parlor pink

dedicated to the fall of the west at any cost, including lives

Hadn't heard that euphemism before, but it seems a weird accusation to levvy when the existing western order is already built on a huge mountain of lives, costing more and more each year.

If anything it's "leftists" rejecting (and censoring discussion in support of) the idea that violence at some level is going to be necessary who are the ones who would be the "parlor pink"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Say something bad about the CCP.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (37 children)

I don't like how they've taken a turn toward liberalizing and "opening up" their healthcare industry so vultures like the guy who got today can get even wealthier off of everyone else.

Maybe there's some logic to it, but I think it sucks.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Should I be moving my account to ml or other, then?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

If you want the best of both worlds, Midwest has access to both, though I do have to block quite a few .world comms because I can’t stand the users’ ~~irrational hatred of~~ obsession with dunking on leftists (edit: and pearl clutching).

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

ml still has access to hexbear/grad and .world so it's my preferred instance just so I don't need to account switch just to browse the different perspectives

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think it’s a lot of the same problem with every social media platform. There’s simply a lot of government agents and private partners that get into positions to moderate and control online speech platforms. It’s how they maintain their power. By controlling what we are allowed to talk about, which never includes speech that’s a threat to their position and power.

Look at how many executives at Facebook are former IDF or CIA. Reddit admins used to have a blogpost up that their highest traffic source came from a government astroturfing farm at Eglin Air Force base. This isn’t a conspiracy. They’re very open about what they’re doing. They have so much control at this point, they no longer feel the need to operate covertly. They spend a great deal of time and money making sure they own the people who moderate the biggest communities, or the admins who can overrule them.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

on here

Do you think that all Lemmy is just your instance? What does “on here” mean in this context to you?

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

That rabbit's dynamite!

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

I support the idea of giving bunnies to horrible rich people, in order to warm their hearts and get them to change their ways. But it is important to note that even if you successfully bun down one person (that is to say, get someone to stop being evil by giving them a bunny), the system will find someone else to take their place. Ideally, you want to establish a credible promise that you'll provide bunnies whenever they go too far and hurt people with their actions, but that's not really something that can be accomplished on an individual level. That's just too many bunnies for one person to take care of, and if anything happens to you, who will take care of them?

In order to ensure consistent delivery of bunnies, what you really need is an organization and a support network. Of course, not everyone needs to be the one out there handing out bunnies. You might be surprised how hard it is to secure transportation and a safe place to stay when you're travelling with a furry friend, and you might run into trouble if you're trying to leave town after the fact, but your clothes are all covered in fur.

The way I see it, promises are what make the world go 'round. Yeah, you can just pull out a bunny and surprise someone and that's cool and good, but when you only have so many bunnies to hand out, ideally you just want to communicate what behavior will warrant a response so that they can avoid that behavior in the future (in order to avoid ending up getting overwhelmed by joy).

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Animaniacs did a whole segment on Bun Control as a way to reduce Bun Violence.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I've got a story idea for a cyberpunk dystopia. Imagine a world almost identical to ours. In that world, some inventive person creates a darknet website that allows anonymous donations to put bounties on corporate executives. Now, this site's creator wants to make sure their site isn't misused, so they implement guardrails like "Targets would be required to have over $10M in assets" and "each crypto wallet may contribute a maximum of $5 so it better reflects the will of the people."

Then, the site admin adds betting options like "who reaches a $1M bounty first", over/under odds, betting on which target gets whacked first, etc, in order to draw traffic to the site. Maybe there'd also be a percentage of the bounty that's paid out to organizations working to heal the damage caused by the target, so for example if a fossil-fuel exec gets whacked then that percentage goes to orgs working to stop fossil fuels.

How do you think it'd play out in this story? Would the site properly incentivize people to shoot up boardrooms rather than schools?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I got banned from reddit for suggesting we give nazis "miniature pineapples".

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I think a guillotine is not violent at all, actually kinda merciful. It's sends a message tho, don't it?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

don't mind the foam around their mouths. they're just happy to see you!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

People say China represses free speech, but at least there they recognize the repression and have a rich lexicon of codewords to get around it already.

The shaping of the western mind has been much more subtle and total that few even accept that it's happened.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I guess you have to learn to be more subtle with your propaganda when you aren't allowed to just disappear anyone you want at any moment and create concentration camps for religions you don't like.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There's plenty of codewords, slang and at this point even jargon about this sort of thing in use in the US. It's just not widely shared, for obvious reasons.

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