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[–] [email protected] 87 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A libertarian is someone who knows the price of everything, the value of nothing, and the age of consent in every jurisdiction

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“Libertarians are like house cats, they’re convinced of their fierce independence while dependent on a system they don’t appreciate or understand.”

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

plenty of house cats survive just fine in the wild. its actually something of a problem. please leave house cats out of this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, its actually well known that some places actually ask you NOT to let your cat outside as they destroy local wildlife.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

me too, and confusion: ...the Librarians HAVE to be inside the schools...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Actually lol'd myself into a coughing fit

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I thought libertarians valued individual liberty.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

The only individual liberties they are concerned with are their own, not those individual liberties of another person or people.

And the liberties they most want are the ability to take away those of the people they wish to exploit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The key point is what liberties do they mean. And usually they mean the liberty to have sex with minor and/or effectively owning people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm hardcore socialist, but I have some libertarian friends that just want to smoke weed, they have more in common with anarchists than Republicans.

I deeply hope that's not a core tenant of libertarianism, how abhorrent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

It’s not usually, the most extreme forms of libertarianism is the complete remove of government control over individual people, which includes a lack of age of consent laws and attracts a certain crowd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah in my experience there are two types of libertarian, some lean anarchist but are uncomfortable with socialism, others lean fascist but are uncomfortable with fascism. Then there are those who are edgy liberals who are uncomfortable with how necessary regulation is but I haven't seen many of them in a while

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Sure, the same way conservatives value small government and fiscal responsibility.

There's definitely those who genuinely believe in those ideals, but they're few and far between.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, but stereotype doesn't

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Are we doing the libertarian/liberal mixup here or what

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

You tell me, have you ever heard a liberal candidate suggest age of consent laws should be up to a vote?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I guess the libertarian label got coopted in US just as the democrat one. That's not unexpected, but sad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's like how as an American i have to call myself an anti-monarchist because republican means not quite the opposite here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Oof. Yeah, from the outside perspective it just looks like all the options you guys have is just different labels slapped on top of conservatism

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Of all the age of consent arguments libertarians make this is by far the weakest. Age of consent is literally up to a vote and can be changed. Thats how Arizona got it’s Romeo and Juliett law in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Weak, sure. It's also a public argument made by an official Libertarian Party politician. Most of the stronger ones come from more anonymous libertarians. If that's what they're saying in public, etc. etc.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They are using the american definition of libertarian, which is basically a pseudoconservative.

Quite different from the european definition, which includes leftist ideologies like libertarian marxism (which is in practice extremely close to anarcho-communism)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yeah I consider myself an anarchist which is a subset of left wing libertarian so I was surprised. I didn't know there are right wing libertarians that aren't claiming to be anarcho-capitalists.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Roughly the same, but in the US the Libertarian Party is basically just conservatives who want to smoke weed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah it’s similar to how there are some libertarian leftists who dont identify with the anarchist label.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

You just triggered so many cryptobros.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Shots fired!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I'm only antistatist until the current state is destroyed.

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