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I've always hated how alcohol commercials play up like a cool beer is the best thing in the world, or a glass of whiskey is what will put hair on your chest. It's a disgusting narrative that ruins people's lives.

On social media, there's a huge variety of it. People posting how they were sober on NYE. Folks sharing before/after as they've gone cold turkey. I see people share tips of what type of mocktails to get at bars, and alternatives to having a fun night over getting drunk.

I appreciate that.

And this is not bashing alcohol. Moderation in everything.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 5 months ago (1 children)

when you’re old enough to get a hangover just from staying up late

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Listen, I can't deal with my sore back, bum knee, AND a hangover all at once.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (6 children)

The anti-chiropractic echo chamber that is Lemmy left me in in pain for far too long. I'm certain they vary wildly in skill and quality, but after just two sessions, my 3 weeks of lower back pain are gone. Dude is a godsend.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The placebo effect does exist, and I still remain skeptical of chiropractors, but I'm glad that you were able to get some relief.

Fact is, the objective scientific/medical understanding of the causes and treatment of lower back pain is pretty limited anyhow, so you might as well try whatever you can.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The placebo effect is pretty magical in itself. You're convincing your body to heal itself and it does in a minority of people. I guess there really are wizards among us.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The placebo effect is less about healing yourself and more about altering your perception of your situation

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Sure, but it has actual, measurable effects. You can cause your body to fix itself by tricking it into thinking you took a medicine to fix it. That's insane.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The ortho basically shrugged and told me to go to physical therapy. Physical therapy was nice but was very slow going and time consuming. Chiropractor brought immediate relief. Would I like them to have a deeper medical and scientific understanding of what they are doing? Of course. But I am not going to argue with results.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

There are plenty of people who swear by them. There are plenty who have been fucked up by them too.

I have a friend who went to one, was getting relief for his back pain, and then decided to adjust his neck. He immediately felt like he was electrocuted and almost threw up from dizziness. He is now 4 years deep into chronic, debilitating neck pain, that didn't exist prior to the adjustment. He is having to be treated with pain injections just to function.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

They did it to themselves with the voodoo bullshit trying to be pretend doctprs but it doesn't mean their services are useless. Medical Community used their stupid PR to drive them from the discourse. Remember that doctors are not our friends, just another merchant that might do you right.

Many people are satisfied with their chiropractor services and that in of it self is value even if some quack thinks it's placebo.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Many people are satisfied with their chiropractor services

That seems awfully self-selecting, doesn't it? Someone that is dissatisfied is not likely to remain a customer

Medical Community used their stupid PR to drive them from the discourse

Why are you blaming this on actual medical practitioners immediately after saying "They did it to themselves with the voodoo bullshit trying to be pretend doctors". Of course actual doctors aren't interested in what people who are lying about being doctors have to say

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

The chiropractic field drove themselves from the scientific discourse by refusing to participate in peer-reviewed double-blind studies. I'm very good friends with a chiropractor and know others through them. If I had a nickel for every "science can't study what we do" I'd be a rich man. We just don't talk about it because it's not productive to friendship lol

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I have a zero tollerance policy for alcohol when I know I will be driving the same day or early the next.

It is far easier to just say "no" from the start than trying to calculate and estimate what would be an acceptable ammount at what time to be able to drive.

Yesterday when I drove home from NYE at my parents, road conditions were terrible, it snowed, the council had not cleared it as I drove home (understandable), and I felt my car loose grip a few times. On roads with a limit of 70km/h I drove 35-40, and on a road with a limit of 90km/h you could not drive any faster than 60, I have excellent winter tyers, but it took all my stone sober concentration to get home safely, if I had had any alcohol, trying to drive home would have been utterly reckless, to be fair, it was borderline reckless when as I drove home sober, but it was doable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yikes. That's a little extra. I take it you never really drink?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Why is it a "yikes" situation to make 100% sure that you have zero alcohol in you when driving?

As for drinking, it is a very small part of me, while I have an extensive collection if spirits, I hardly ever drink.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

RESPECT.

I have the same rule. No alcohol 24 hours prior to driving.

It's easy for me though, since I can take a bus, Uber, or even walk. And I have no urgency in my life where a car is required like that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

24 hours seems like more than necessary, but I agree with the gist: I don't drink if I'm not where I'm planning to spend the night.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I'm really glad that more and more places are offering fun mocktails. Sometimes you want the social aspect of drinking but not the alcohol

I just wish they wouldn't charge alcohol prices for them

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I hate that mocktails are as expensive if not more expensive than literal alcoholic drinks despite having no expensive alcohol in them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I've seen mocktail "shots" that cost more than an actual shot. It's basically a ginger shot (not even a fresh one) with extra shit in it. Not worth the $12

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I'm just happy that there is finally some good NA beers. I realized I had a problem drinking where I would just want to keep drinking once I started but I had such a connection between beer and sports that it became hard to watch sports without wanting a beer which would then turn in to me wanting 12 beers. Just being able to have a good NA beer which tricked my mind into thinking I'm having a beer. My brain didn't get the dosage of alcohol that I needed to keep drinking booze so I could just have 2 of them during an Orioles game and not worry about it. I've only had 8 total drinks since election night. Never more than 2 in a day but I've decided that I'm totally off booze since those 8 drinks.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm a heavy drinker but screw it, sharing my non-alcoholic version of Irish cream here:

  • 100ml whole milk; boiling hot
  • a cinnamon stick
  • some pieces of orange skin, just the yellow part
  • drinking chocolate powder; I use 3tbsp
  • instant coffee powder; I use 2tbsp
  • 400g dulce de leche [see note]
  • 200ml half-and-half
  • vanilla extract
  • 300~500ml whole milk, again; keep it cool
  1. Simmer the cinnamon stick and orange skin in the whole milk for 10 minutes or so. Then throw them away, they're just to add flavour to the milk.
  2. Add the other ingredients, in the sequence listed, making sure to incorporate well one ingredient before adding another. Taste it and add more or less milk as you want, if it tastes too strong add more milk.
  3. Transfer to a bottle, chill it. Serve it on the rocks.

NOTE: you can buy the dulce de leche if you want, but it gets more expensive than just making it at home with the same amount of sweetened condensed milk.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

My stupid ass read this as a non-alcoholic Irish Whiskey and got confused when I saw milk.

This is still great! Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I wish I could stop drinking. Save yourselves.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Man I haven't "quit" but a couple months back I just decided it was more work to go get a beer from the fridge than it was worth. Because then after a few I had to then get up and piss. More effort. Now I'm out of beer at the house and it's more effort to drive to the store and get it and then it would repeat that cycle. So, pure laziness has more or less sobered me up.

I actually do have a nice bottle of whiskey hidden but it's not open and I've been saving it for an occasion(ive had it almost a year). I do have to entertain guests coming up so I think I'll just get a small case of nice beer and leave it as an option and once it's gone it's gone.

So anyway what I'm saying is, maybe try just being lazy.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

whenever we go as a group to get cocktails we do 2 booze rounds and 1 boozeless round so we're all set to drive

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)

You are not okay to drive after two booze rounds

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

after 3 hours? its not like im poundin em and hittin the road

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

They probably mean they're likely to be below the breath-alcohol limit for their region.

Also duration of these rounds can be accounted for in that calculation.

That being said, it's always best to have a personal limit of zero when driving.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

No big deal. I can't personally take shots, but I can drink beer and metabolize it super fast. To each his own, but trying to put a "one size fits all" limit on drinking is silly.

I can drink shitty light beer all day, but one time I drank 3 beers on a date at the local brew house, drove home and thought, "Jesus. I shouldn't be doing this."

To most people, drinking means hammered, or at least too loosey-goosey to drive. Some of us aren't like that. (And yes, no matter who you are, alcohol dulls reflexes.)

If it works for you, great.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I see people share tips of what type of mocktails to get

I like blended virgin raspberry margaritas on the sour side, and will generally order one if I see one on a menu.

Honestly, I should probably just figure out a recipe to make them myself, as they're nice to slowly sip, and they'd be nice to have at home too. Never did get around to making one myself.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say I "appreciate" it as it leans towards being subjective, but I'd say it seems to make more sense for alcohol to be refused. What goes on in a person's mind when they're using the world's oldest form of psychiatry to reduce their faculties which are themselves implied to be the issue as a response to the weight of life?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I like drinking alcohol or taking legal substances during certain events. Feeling a bit of floatyness while watching the sunset is a great feeling (in moderation).

If that feeling doesn't mean anything to you, thats cool and no judgement.

I think about how some cultures eat dessert as a closure to their favorite meal, and thats the only metaphor I can think of.

Edit: found a meme I relate to: https://slrpnk.net/post/16826864

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Is not about refusing alcohol, is about more people becoming anti social and just not being comfortable with stuff related to it. I'm one of them

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

mate this is explicitly about people choosing non-alcoholic options at social gatherings

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Haha! I do enjoy when I convince my anti-social friends to come to a party and give them a chill out room to recharge and tricks to getting the pets to play with them.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I really want a drink right now but i dont want to get shit faced. The problem is, once i pop the fun dont stop, ya know

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is that the way whiskey is advertised? Huh. I don't see commercials anymore, so IDK.

I drink single-malt Scottish whiskey occasionally because I enjoy the flavors. Same with most bourbons and ryes. But Kentucky whiskey? Bleah. Sadly, I am poorer than my preferences.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't know why drinking alcohol has to be a binary issue, but maybe my propensity for addiction is lower than normal. Does it seem like the majority of human beings have to just not drink at all or they binge out and wake up in the bushes?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I've never touched alcohol in my life outside of cleaning purposes (I mean isopropyl alcohol, or as I like to call it, icy prope). And to be honest, you've convinced me to remain teetotal.

However, I always have the feeling I wanted to try out some drinks just for that taste but can't because it's got some of that الكحول in it. And there are very few non-alcoholic alternatives for these drinks. The only one I've tried is a virgin mojito (in my country it's sometimes referred to as just "mojito" because it's the only one we know). And honestly, it tastes great. And then there's the fact that I can't make my own vanilla extract. You need ethanol for that, and I just have this fear of putting it in my body because I don't wanna get addicted to it.

I've always treated alcohol like drugs and tobacco. They feel fun, and you want more, but it will knock you out when you least expect it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The arrow must go up.

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