I was going to recommend the one your moving from. Ha
What are your requirements?
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Same. Mullvad #1.
Unless you need port forwarding, then Proton for those activities.
Haha Open to staying, just looking since it’s time to check the landscape out if anything’s changed. My friend has Proton VPN, but so many options these days.
Well some less than impressive news about the Proton CEO came out pretty recently. I'm a current user and thinking hard about switching to something else.
Lemme go find a link. Here we go, I went down this thread last night:
Bingo. When I heard about it, figured I would rather ask here.
Meh. Who cares about the political leanings of some CEO. Separate the art from the artist.
When the product is "trust" there is no separation. I do no longer trust the CEO so I will not use the product that relies on that trust.
There is not a single product you use that doesn't have the support of some trump supporter behind it. You gonna go live in the woods off of the fat of the land?
The food you buy, probably 90% Trump supporters. Gonna stop eating? Drive a car? Use plastic at all? All Trump supporting oil barons. Gonna stop using that stuff too? No?
But you'll sit here and virtue signal that you're such a gooooood person because you're swapping over to another VPN...
That also ends up having the same supporters behind it. Great, you hate trump, wooo you're such a virtuous person, (news flash: I'm sure most people do) -- Now come back to earth with the rest of us. Too many of you people let this shit live rent-free in your heads constantly.
Congrats you managed to skip over the first and second sentence in my 2 sentence comment.
A VPN is not like a physical product. YOU ARE BUYING TRUST. You shift the point of trust from your ISP, network provider, government etc to the VPN provider. You say "I trust this company more than I trust these other players, so I use their VPN which hides my traffic from these other players but puts the VPN provider in a position where they can see all my network traffic".
Ah yes, the good old "its bad but everything else you do is also bad so you're not allowed to start changing a habit".
Thats exactly what keeps things like this going.
Nice to see common sense on here for a change.
There is not a single product you use that doesn't have the support of some trump supporter behind it.
This is not "some". It's the CEO and then a company double down.
But you know that, else you would have laid at argument, not have written a 4 paragraph long whatabautism.
This reminds me of "Why do people always have to bring politics into this?" Hate to break it to you, but politics is relevant to every facet of life in a civilization. From the food you eat, to the ways you're able to make a living, to everything else in your life.
Proton is and always was sketchy.
A company claiming "Swiss privacy laws" as their base while de facto operating out of the US is highly problematic. Switzerland has the weakest privacy laws of all European countries, has laws in place for extensive intelligence agency placement within their tech companies and has a history of intelligence agency overreach. The USA can easily make companies and executives do what they want due to the whole Homeland security act clusterfuck.
I wouldn't touch then with a ten foot pole if data privacy was ones goal.
But what is wrong with Mullvad that your leaving it?
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/vpn/
A comparison from a group who matches my style of crazy.
Nothing, more VPN’s feel like they change fast anymore. Mainly I’m getting old lol, gives the guttural feeling of constantly trying to keep up 🤣.
I would use Mullvad
Alright, I guess I’ll stay where I am for now. My main concerns were streaming and privacy.
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What’s going on with mullvad ? So many recommendations, isn’t it just another provider with shady background ?
No account creation, you can pay in bitcoin or mail them cash in an envelope if you want, and you can establish the VPN connection using standard free and open source software
Oh ok thanks
What shady background?
Some time ago I would have recommended Mullvad and Proton, but after Proton's CEO publicly mentioned Trump favorably in some way I'd say just use Mullvad.
MullvadVPN.
I still think Mulvad is the best that there is at the moment. There's Proton, which shouldn't be too bad. I wouldn't trust anything else, to be honest.
Edit: Depending on your requirements and technical know-how, then perhaps buying a private VPS and running tail scale could also be an option.
AirVPN is great and has port forwarding.
I like airvpn. Ran 24/7 for over a year without issue.
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Proton VPN
Proton is sucking trumps chode these days
Nobody is mentioning PIA... Am I missing something that makes them a non-ideal option?
Bought by an Israeli firm:
https://hackread.com/private-internet-access-pia-vpn-sold-israel-privacy-concerns/
Several years ago, they were bought by Kape (formerly Crossrider), which is a company that started off making malware (browser toolbars that bundled unwanted software and other advertising software). I jumped from PIA to Proton once I found out. I'm paying more, but I can trust Proton more. They're not a malware company, after all.
Hey, each and every one of those toolbars was necessary and useful!
According to all my non-techy friends back in the day, you're right. They weren't able to browse the web without their browsers looking like this:
MullvadVPN, it doesn't share info and you give it the least amount possible
I use Nord. No one here has mentioned Nord. Is it shit?
They have a pretty bad rep in terms of privacy from what I have seen
Dang, I wasn't aware of that. Well, I'll ditch them once my subscription expires for sure.
if they put so much money into influencers, youtubers etc I am already turned off. shouldn't they lower prices, pay better wages or expand infrastructure instead of giving money to pewdiepie?
I really love IVPN but I feel it’s not everyone’s cup of tea.
I also cache the hell out of DNS myself (along with crazy strict blocking) which makes it much snappier than just going the default way.
You can squeeze out more performance out of their IPv6 (which is strange since the endpoints themselves don’t support IPv6), IPv4 seems a bit slower.
I was recommended Proton a couple years ago (pre-Lemmy) by some reddit tech/piracy forum. I've continued to subscribe it without scrutiny or vigilance. and uhh it's fine? works great? it's a VPN. i can download star trek without prison time. I never game on it though
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I use AirVPN, no complaints about it from my part but also don't use it much.
I personally use AirVPN but it's unfortunately very slow when using as Tailscale exit node
Why use it as a Tailscale exit node?
I use Tailscale to access my home server, however I also want to use a VPN but that means losing my connection to my home server.
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