more like #4 considering the hexbear duplicate
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I'm surprised lemmy.ml isn't on there, it seems really big from my limited experience.
No really, .ml isn't even in top 10? Did they opt-out from these statistics or are they that small?
https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
Edit: well I guess they really are that small. But total posts they have at 147k, what is going on here?
based on the creation date advertised by the instance, lemmy.ml exists since 2019-04-20. lemmy.world exists since 2023-06-01.
Huh, you're right. In fairness this is cropped from an image shared on the AskLemmy .ml thread, so I'm not 100% sure what's going on there. Edit: Image is legit. Weird...
They're just loud. Like a terrier.
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Personally I would go with Monthly Active Users, e.g. since Hexbear has managed to run off a good fraction of its users over time (which lemmy.world is in the process of doing as well).
This puts sh.itjust.works as #4, which it's been for a good long while, above Lemmy.ml and Hexbear and nearly all other instances.
Link, but the URL does not preserve the options shown, so you have to resort by Monthly Active Users.
Man, I just wanted to chant "We're #5", now I have people coming at me with facts. :p
(Jokes aside, I appreciate it. There's nuance to these metrics and what best accounts for 'size', particularly for those cases/services where the metrics reflect a little bugginess anyway)
I think when we yell "five", there should be a spirited booty shake.
🎶🎤🎶Errybody get yer shit onna dancefloor! Now work it. Just work it. Errybody getcher shit n work it🎶
🎤Wanna drive a lamborghini? Drink martinis? You betta work bitch🎤
See, everyone is coming in and talking about different means of measuring instances, the implications for the fediverse and the position of federated services against corporate monoliths like reddit.
But you, verity - you get it.
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(which lemmy.world is in the process of doing as well)
I'm one of them. Luigi censoring was the catalyst. I came to Lemmy to get away from corporate censorship. It also doesn't help that it's slow as fuck on desktop compared to the others I tried.
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sh.itjust.works is at #4 by total posts as well, since hexbear was counted twice in the OP.
It's both amusing and unsurprising that lemmynsfw is second though
Wouldn't total posts bias towards older instances though, counting posts over time rather than activity today? So then good point that sh.itjust.works is so high up by both metrics:-).
While lemmy.ml continues to fall - by active users I think I recall it was #3 at some point, then #4, while now it's #5, where based on the gap below it, it seems likely to remain since users are now more distributed than previously (which is a good thing!:-).
Oh yeah, monthly active users is definitely the better metric, I just wanted to point out that in this case, it falls in the same place either way.
I wonder what the best metric would be for measuring how distributed Lemmy is. Maybe the ratio between total active monthly users vs the top 5 or 10 instances?
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If you exclude blocked instances, you're a lot higher than #5...
Yeah, we're pretty much #2, which seems thematically appropriate :)
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Hexbear is counted twice, so you're actually #4.
This image is a bit disheartening, ngl
*#4, hexbear (ew) is on there twice.
im still relatively new to lemmy and am crossposting or whatever the term is , from lemmy.world but its mind boggling that the tankie sect is as big as it is on here.
They really aren't, 4k monthly active users out of 43k
4k too many
Your instance defederates from hexbear and grad already. You can choose to block ml in your account settings
But then what would they complain about?
This is the instance I direct everyone to, it’s been the most reasonable AND least bothersome.
5/7
Im not seen as a specific subset like if I were to move to blahaj or Midwest (which would be my next two picks). I like being seen as 'just a person'
It, quite literally, just works.
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This is the best instance in fediverse in my opinion.
This is upsetting as fuck. This one picture just made me realize that Lemmy is likely never going to get much bigger. The top is just an exact clone of Reddit, meaning there's no reason to use it over Reddit, and the next three are active propaganda mills filled with fascists and tankies. After that you get normal servers. That's a terrible look. That guarantees anyone new joining will likely join one of those 4 and will either think "what's the point, this is just Reddit with a percent of the users" or "JFC these people are all Nazis" or worst of all which seems to already be the case "finally, somewhere I can speak freely about those dirty Ukrainians/Palestinians/Americans/Women/LGBTQ/OtherMinorities!"
It is far worse than that imho, sadly.
For one, we are most definitely actively getting smaller, both since the Rexodus and also since just earlier this year. I think people are returning to Reddit but wherever they are going it is not here. We lack sufficient content for them, despite having the good apps that Reddit used to. This is software built by tankies, and has authoritarian purposes baked into the core.
And for another, a Google search for "Lemmy", after the singer, pulls up as the top instance lemmy.ml, which notably uses a Local rather than All feed by default. So it's just absolutely full of posts hating on the USA, UK, Germany, and anyone else who opposes the interests of Russia and China and North Korea. THIS is what "Lemmy" is, to people who don't use DuckDuckGo as their primary search engine.
It may already be too late to reverse this trend: we lost the momentum of the Rexodus, and we won't even be honest about who and what we are now, which would be a prerequisite for change - we are a Nazi bar.
An example of our authoritarianism is the modding tools here. The fact that we have a modlog at all is awesome, but the fact that it just says "mod" rather than who removed something, while simultaneously offering no modmail to communicate with whoever did it in order to ask why, is not. Also reports don't federate. Lemmy was built by the admins of lemmy.ml, and if we want more of a non-authoritarian experience - e.g. a modmail - it seems we would have to build such ourselves?
Also, on Reddit (at least, prior to the Rexodus, I dunno if it still does today?) when a post is removed the post link remains viable, and people can still have discussions within it. On Lemmy, a capricious mod can remove something entirely. Imagine writing our a long response (such as I've done here:-), only to find after all of that that the post has been removed in the meantime and I can't even respond to the person I was talking to, even if they were not the OP. Nor can I even finish reading through the comments - they are just, poof, gone.
As authoritarian as Huffman made Reddit into, we are so very similar - not at the top, obviously, bc open source makes all the difference, but when it comes down to the actual user experience, e.g. how a Redditor will look at us and judge this place to be, based on how we will treat them (and I haven't even begun here to get into how centrists from the USA will feel in this leftist dominated environment!:-P). We have the seeds to be more, but we won't make the computer code to make that happen.
Pretty good assessment! When I was using Reddit I used it like a lot and the way the Reddit admins treatet it made it not feel like home. I spent like so much time there so I ended up deleting my account. It wasn't even the powermods or admin scandals although what kinda pushed me over the edge was the exclusivity contract with google. Only google was now supposed to be able to use web crawlers on Reddit. I use Qwant as my main search engine and didn't like the way they gate kept the content made by people. Then only google is supposed to be able to train their AI with this data. They act like they own what I upload and create and I loved the idea of lemmy so I migrated to a german instance. After the big FUCK SPEZ on r/place I think a mod of r/ich_iel Hubi got like banned or something for a certain time so they decided to push for a migration to feddit.de, later feddit.org after feddit.de went down.
Reddit is already a left leaning platform in a political sense and lemmy is on another level. Even if you block out all the tankie instances. Sad to see the number of users slowly dropping bit by bit. It around the same but I'm kinda like just waiting for it to get better but it might never will. I'm a real sucker for FOSS and privacy so to think lemmy might now ever become more popular is sad to me.
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Does that include the NSFW instances?
Perhaps the list originally started at 0...
Why heckbear 2 times? I am confuzzled
They're just that good at posting lol
I imagine feddit.nl is nowhere near the top but I sort of like it that way.
20th by monthly active users, accounting for hexbear double entry
https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
Definitely a good position
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I don't know why, but I expected to see Aussie.zone here since it feels incredibly active to me haha
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I'm good with my smaller community that is "seven seas friendly" in dbzer0
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I got here as a kbin.social refugee and I can't say I have any complaints.
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