I've noticed a very pro-China shift on Lemmy since Trump became president. Yeah, Trump is awful, but it's not like that makes China or Russia better. It makes them all bad.
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That started well before he became president.
China is good actually.
Pro or anti X nation state rhetoric is rarely helpful. I fully agree that blind support of another country just because it’s not the US is just silly. I don’t know what you mean by all bad. How’re you labeling all three of those countries?
Have you been to China? The thing that is affecting so many US users on xiaohongshu is waking up to how many aspects of Chinese daily life and society are actually better than the supposed best country in the world. This has been my experience on my most recent of many times in China. It shocking how many issues and stressors exist in America that don’t in China.
I don’t know what you mean by all bad. How’re you labeling all three of those countries?
Do you have your head under a rock? Over the past few years China has been putting the Uighur people in concentration camps while Russia has been invading and genociding Ukrainians.
No, China hasn't. There has been no evidence.
We know how much information should get out of a state with complete control over the flow of information, via Palestine and Ukraine's respective genocides. Instead of any of that, we have vague, contradictory accusations from Islamic extremists. The uighur people control Xinjiang, and thanks to investment it's flourishing.
China killed Islamic extremism via education and improving material conditions; that's not acceptable to the West, so they made up a story.
The westerner that has never been to China and doesn't speak a word of mandarin is gonna lecture us on China.
No, because I don’t fall for the propaganda. I’ve met one of the NYT reporters on that and their sources were three Ugyhurs and trust me. I’m guessing you don’t speak Chinese and have zero knowledge of it besides MSN?
His trusted source is a German man that doesn't speak chinese, has never been to china and uses satellital pictures of buildings in construction as proof, like it is eyeopening how much media buzz someone as unserious as Adrian Zenz has only because he preached the "china bad" narrative.
I think to each their own. My wife spent two weeks in China for work, and she’s still traumatized from it.
You definitely need to tell us what happened with your wife. Can't just write something like that and leave it hanging!
Lol. Alright I’ll try to be as vague as possible while still trying to respect those involved.
My wife is in an industry where she has a lot of knowledge in what she went to college for. She had a friend living in China at the time (caucasian), who was also in the same field. The company her friend worked for offered to pay for my wife’s travel and expenses to work for them (Research and Development) on a contract job for two weeks. This company was Chinese, with Chinese workers. I believe there was only one other caucasian person in the mix at the gym (aside from her friend)
From the get go, it was a problem. My wife is caucasian and does not speak the language. Cheng Du where she needed to go. She had to do a connecting flight on the way there in China. It was very difficult to navigate and no one would help her. She eventually managed to get where she needed to go.
Once she was there. It was a nightmare. My wife is in the fitness industry. She has a degree in exercise science and kinesiology. This should give you a frame of reference for how healthy she lives her life and how fit she is. While in china, men would get off their bikes, take pictures of her, point and laugh. I believe they called her Fat tan farmer, far farmer or big lady. Again, my wife is lean and not fat in any way, but China’s standards of what the human body should look like seems insane. Everyone was paper thin. The gym she was working for had banned weights in their gym, weights!
It was very difficult to interact with people at all. Going to starbucks for example, they would either ignore her to her face and have people skip her or go into the back to hide from her. She was under the impression she would have a guide with her most of the time, but that was not the case. They took her out to dinner once, and that was it, they left her to fend on her own. She was not used to the fact that over there, red traffic lights are merely a suggestion (though this aspect is many counties)
The conditions of the area were extreme and changed from block to block. Some streets would have slums and stores made out of sheets of metal right across the street from what look like a 4 star hotel. Where she stayed was a more safe area (where her friend lived). It’s overcast there from pollution or whatever, that If the sun came out people dropped what they were doing to take pictures of it. And it wasn’t even that impressive compared to what we see in the US. It happened twice in the two weeks she was there.
The thing that finally broke her situation was that they handed her thousands of dollars in cash with the directive to go back to the US and go to other gyms, so she secretly record, steal their ideas and report back to them. I guess thinking about it now, they basically wanted her to be a spy for them. The whole experience strained the friendship between her and her friend, they argued and never spoke again after this trip.
Finally on her way back, she had her final surprise. My wife is generally a nervous flyer, and this event put her off from flying for a bit. On her plane back (she can’t remember what company) while they were passing over Japan, they hit the most turbulence she had ever been on. The plan started to violently shake and lose control, the oxygen masks deployed and everyone started crying. She honestly thought she was going to die and this was it. Obviously she made it home, but she’s never going back. I’ve always wanted to visit Japan, but the thought of flying that long and even entering Asia is still traumatizing to her.
I think to each their own. My wife spent two weeks in China for work, and she’s still traumatized from it.
What
Edit: oh his wife just can’t handle new experiences.
This is it. Self hosting, federation, not for profit is the way. We need an internet that is made by just regular people for no better reason than it's fun. Not just social media either. We need an entire open internet, free and clear of all ulterior motives (or more likely still having bad actors mixed in, but at least they're not pulling any strings at the upper levels).
I don't know how possible that is, but I know we need it.
Fully agree! Thanks for putting my thought into much better words.
The only issue I see now is how to surpass bad mods and admins? The balance between filtering off topic or bad content versus anything goes but then nazis come out seems to be a challenge plus power tripping.
That's a never-ending process of everyone voting and discussing where the line is and where it should be.
There is no "final" solution, instead the solution is for people to collectively and continiously keep solving it every day.
I just don't understand why it's a problem that the nazis come out. Would we not rather they utter their opinions in the open so they can be refuted? That way people can also just ignore that user if they don't like viewing what he has to say.
It's not like they don't exist just because we ban them here.. They'll go somewhere to discuss where only other people who agree with them is allowed to be.
Unless we're talking direct threats or doxing I'm always an advocate for free speech online.
I used to think this way, but no. Nazis should be shunned and banned and feel unwelcome everywhere. No one should ever think their rhetoric is harmless or ignorable. Those who tolerate Nazis enable them.
And yeah, folks can wring their hands about slippery slopes and where we draw lines, but the beauty of federation is that if someone is too loose or too draconian, we can go somewhere with more agreeable policies. We can decide as a society where the line is drawn, and it'll be fuzzy but as speech gets closer to Naziism, it will be rejected more and more places, as it should be.
Well said
Nazi punks, fuck off.
China is pretty sensitive about depictions of Mao, so it doesn't surprise me.
Ironically enough it's actually super popular in China to "Rent-a-Mao" or Chiang Kai-Shek or whoever else from China's modern history. There are a lot of Mao impersonators, just like we have impersonators of Elvis.
Even positive ones? But what's up with that?
It's like how companies don't like satirical use of their trademarks even if positive. Brand control. Or for China, propaganda control. They don't want you to get comfortable using jokes about it.
Xiaohongshu does not tolerate political posts altogether, from what I read
That app doesn't like gambling, politics, or sexually explicit material.
Your post probably fell under politics.
Awwww, you poor thing.
They didn't see you as a useful idiot so they leveraged their hatred for what you are and banished you.
Leopards are hungry on both sides of the line.
Xiaohongshu bans all politics, even references. There's more serious platforms for those type of people, whereas xiaohongshu is to have fun and connect with others.
Please name the serious platforms in China that allow the discussion of politics.
There are some where you're allowed to talk about how great of a job the CCP are doing.
I've been in a lot of political discussions on Xiaohongshu. It seems people learn a little Marxism even in high school and are happy to share about it.
Not everything has been super fabulous about China, but nothing critical of Mao, and a big consensus that living in China is kinder to people who aren't wealthy than the US
the real name of this app in chinese is "Little Red Book"
surprised?
I can read Chinese. Maoist thought and censoring of Mao should not be connected lol
In English, Mao’s book is called the “little red book” but that’s not the case in China. The direct translation of what they call it in China is “red treasure book”. As such, the name of the app only seems like a Mao reference to people who translated xiaohongshu into English.
Well yeah, Mao Zedong is kinda like Chinese Muhammad or Chinese Charlemagne (not supporting the guy, but still). Were you not expecting to catch some passionate attention? I mean, I'd also ask that of everyone; China is kind of known for censoring things, like Italians and cheese or Icelanders and their elves, so it's weird to see people think the equivalent of "I'm going to a flock of crows dressed up as an owl because it's exercising freeeeeeeedom!"
I don't "support" that from a Chinese government perspective, as their journey for power and reach, like a lot of territorial groups, involved lots of death and domination over things that couldn't "ethically" be owned, but from a service owner's perspective, I mean, if it's rightfully the child of your own two hands, it's just your right to ban as you wish.