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[–] [email protected] 164 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It’s worth watching the whole video, AOC is the type of politician that actually has a chance to have a party that represents the working class.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I hope the Democrats can figure out before the last minute that she's a really viable candidate for President.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Most D's are captured by most of the same corporations and oligarchs as the R's. They will never allow a working class movement. Only corporate-whore lite.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If so, they are in for hard wake-up call. Most corporations/oligarchs are rapidly shifting their allegiance to Trump. Those sweet donations will stop flowing to Dems.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps this is one of the reasons why the Dems are also shifting right: to capture back corporate donors, instead of listening to the wants and needs of their base.

Welcome to Democratic neoliberalism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Yes I think that’s possible, but it’s a strategy that will surely fail. They cannot very well pass the GOP on the right, and they cannot out-Trump Trump. The 2024 election has shown that there were insufficient moderate voters. The upcoming cycle will teach the Dems that there are now also insufficient moderate donors.

Only chance to win is to go towards economic populism, and with Trumps billionaire cabinet it has never been easier.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

The leadership doesn't care, they're already set.

[–] aubeynarf 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

this “not pure enough to be purely really absolutely 100% air quotes left left” talk Is what helped Trump get in office. but I suspect you know that

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And the “You can’t mention the shortcomings of the Dems or else you want Trump” talk is what helped Kamala lose the office. but I suspect you know that

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

But why talk about the failings of one person when we can concentrate on the more achievable goal of fixing stupid for half the population? /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Jaysus, liberals should just admit that they themselves benefit from growing wealth inequality as much as the right does. Who are the ones who keep voting down to build affordable housing in proudly blue states, especially California and New York? Why should the working class vote for a party that make empty promises and giving only breadcrumbs?

[–] aubeynarf 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just sit out guys! Don’t want to be associated with “liberals”!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yup, total in denial. Liberal policies has been "we're not our opponent" instead of addressing housing crisis and job offshoring.

If the liberals goes further left than they are now, then they shouldn't complain why the Trump phenomenon exist. It says a lot more on liberal policies than on people in general.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They know she's popular enough to win a general election one day, just as they knew Bernie was. But the moderate crowd would rather lose with one of their own than win with a progressive

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean AOC might become president, that isn't gonna magically get progressive policies passed. You still need 218 US congressional districts to also elect progressives.

Edit: And also 50 sentors

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

My micropenis submarine has already banned AOC from X.com because I saved drowning underaged malaysian soccer players from the pedos in the so-called british special forces.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No she's not. She is a women and Americans well not vote for a woman for president. Sorry it is the truth and they have to stop doing that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Find me a woman who isn't a center-right politician who has ever run. People didn't vote for women because the women who ran are assholes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Stop trying to play the gender card. We refuse to vote for a female president that legislates like a male neoliberal. They dont get preferential treatment because they are a woman.

[–] RedditRefugee69 49 points 2 months ago (3 children)

At this point I'm concerned for her safety. She's one of our last hopes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If it was Russia, she would have already fell out of a window.

[–] RedditRefugee69 9 points 2 months ago

We're probably not far behind, considering most of our top officials are obviously Russian assets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Really? I mean she might be great but she is a women. America choose trump over a women. If the Dems run a women again then they deserve to loose again. They you and me might be fine with a women president but America is not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Can private security be crowdfunded? /s

A lot of others "losing" secret service protection is quite a clue to how the new regime expects violence and intimidation to be enacted.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why the Democrat party doesn't capitalize on that is proof the billionaires control everything

[–] aubeynarf 10 points 2 months ago

“Democrat party” 👍🏻

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Saying "proof" is not enough here. Can you elaborate?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

You're asking for proof of billionaire political capture? How about superdelegates, or the billionaires on stage at the DNC, or the Democrats bending the knee to AIPAC by pushing out AOC?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A "young" 74 year old with throat cancer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're asking for proof that billionaires control everything?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Oh yes, here comes the billionaire controlling what I write here:

Ni!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She's in a tough spot because she dislikes a lot of what the Democratic party is doing and also refuses to even meet with lobbyists let alone take their money. To a ton of everyday people these are very good things but to either of the parties this is an enemy to the party that doesn't have the firepower to win an election. Of course, I would absolutely love to be wrong on this but history (especially recently) is not on her side.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

In the 2020 primary Bernie and Warren were regularly leading in donations. And in 2016 and 2024 Trump won despite raising less money throughout most of the campaign. Big money is not the be all and end all of politics, and when people believe in a candidate large sums can be raised.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

She's is a fucking sheepdog, that's all she is. Giving disenfranchised voters the illusion that if they stick around long enough, they too can have a seat at their table. She's a snake in the grass that cannot be trusted.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit 6 points 2 months ago

Why do you say that? Everything that I've heard her say has been principled and thoughtful. I haven't read anything about her actions that I find problematic either.

So... citation needed?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Many citations needed. Or is all of that just your opinion provided without reasoning?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago

Listen, they're going to try to get that third term, but they'll ultimately fail, and the only point of this presidency is to give Trump's donors as much favour as he can, as the CIA collects dossiers on all of them so that Trump can retire as the new Epstein.

Worst part about it? They're going to fuck shit up and republicans will fit DECADES claim he was one of the best presidents ever.

Alexa, remind me of this post in 10 years.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So much for getting rid of "the elite"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Joke’s on America, WE are the swamp.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Feed them lead

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Very true, but it's not like Harris was signaling she was going to eliminate billionaires by seizing all of their wealth. So both parties are the same, right?