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[–] StayDoomed@lemmy.world 160 points 1 month ago (5 children)

They are going to be stuck rehiring people that resign as consultants because they won't have the people to run the legally required programs in place.

It will end up costing more money for the government.

I have little hope that the people that actually vote will even remember how fucked all this is two years from now.

[–] sprack@lemmy.world 151 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They’ll require that consultants are hired through a company owned by a Trump subsidiary and pocket a percentage of the pay.

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

this one gets it. This is exactly how Viktor Orban's system works.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They'll also ensure those who get hired, share the maga viewpoints.

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I dunno, how does 8 months pay sound more appealing than a pension?

[–] JollyBrancher@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most federal civilian employees are now on a 401(k) equivalent. Air Traffic likes to mention how they are one of the ones left with a pension, but clearly, nothing is guaranteed.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We get both. A 401k equivalent called TSP (Thrift Savings Plan) and FERS. People hired after a certain year ( i wanna say 2011 or 2013) pay substantially more into FERS than people hired before (less than 1% vs 4.3% of pay). I don't expect either to pay out in my lifetime tbh.

TSP is also unique in that you can take a loan from it directly, not using it as colateral. Any interest paid goes right back into your TSP.

This is also an option if jumping ship:

https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/retire-faq/leaving-the-government/how-do-i-apply-to-have-my-retirement-contributions-refunded-to-me-in-a-one-time-payment/

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I’m pretty sure the idea is to get rid of dissenters in an easy and legal way, while keeping those like-minded individuals who will toe the line.

I think the idea is to scare dissenters into quitting, because otherwise their position may get downsized otherwise and they lose out on any benefits and pension.

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[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"legally required programs"? What law? Show me where that matters. Who will enforce such laws when all of the people running these programs are gone?

I know why Trump appeals to so many people. He's the politician/business who acknowledged that rules are made up by fallible humans and can be re-written. The problem is, when we have similar politicians on the left who try to break the system for the working class the liberals agree that it's terrible in the same way that they agree that trump is terrible, but the oligarchs don't see an avenue for profit and so they fight against them as well.

[–] StayDoomed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's as simple as you need people to actually enforce laws and carry out programs laid out by Congress.

I don't think you understand how laws work. The laws I work to to support were promulgated in the 1970s after rivers were lighting on fire.

They are complicated to enforce because the companies that cause environmental harm can afford high powered attorneys and lobbyists to prevent them from being enforced.

There is no one working on behalf of the american people to try to meet the intent of many of these laws we rely on - such as those to keep our environment, air we breathe, water we drink, relatively safe. Other than those in the government that have the authority to do so.

I don't know how all of the other various agencies work specifically, but that's generally what people are doing in the government

You don't seem to understand this so you don't value it. I think once it gets more fucked up, you will. This isn't a liberal or conservative thing. The laws I work with were put on the books by Nixon. This is a rich stealing from you issue. Not left/right.

But maybe you are just troll, probably.

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[–] aaron@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lol, "rehiring". What if I told you that he doesn't intend to replace them?

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they toss in health insurance for a they will get some people resigning. Those that were planning on retiring in less than 8 months.

Resign now and get 8 months of pay or retire in 4 months and get 4 months of pay.... Hmmmmm....

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[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 85 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Putin's (very) useful idiot is now in the process of completing his work destroying the US federal government. Hope state governments can pick up the slack, because they'll have to.

EDIT: And, surprise! Red states are more dependent on federal funding than blue states are.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

He wants to destroy the European Union, so it's not surprising he wants to destroy American Union as well.

[–] DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm guessing most Federal workers aren't stupid enough to believe Trump would actually pay the buyout amount. Especially after Presidential "advisor" Elon failed to pay Twitter severance.

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A Trump never pays his debts

[–] errer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Chaos is not a pit. Chaos is a ladder.

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a good thing this guy always pays his debts otherwise some might think this is a dirt trick.

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[–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 month ago

Important information sharing from https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12627783 !

Someone on reddit pointed out there’s an OPM rule that makes max payout at something like $25k. Let me go dig it up real quick.

Because that means a lot of people wouldn’t get paid the full amount and Trump is absolutely the kind of person who would use shit like that as an excuse to not keep paying out. I wouldn’t trust this deal because based on stuff like this it doesn’t pass the sniff test.

Apologies for (slight retch) a reddit link:

https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1ice9ml/trump_administration_offering_buyouts_to_nearly/m9pya4z/

zedextol:

Per OPM, the federal government can’t legally pay more than $25k, pre-tax. This is another scam. Trump is the literal master of grift. You think he’s gonna make good on this debt after years of not paying his bills?

Edit: Source below

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/workforce-restructuring/voluntary-separation-incentive-payments/

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 1 month ago

Fuck up the system enough to make it fail.

Reinstall what you need with only Party loyalists.

Now you control the system.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Watch them word it poorly and accidentally release every active duty service member from their contracts.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Id probably go the px and get new tags made with the female (F) identifier since we've all be declared female.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is going to save so much money guys. Nevermind that they'll likely end up rehiring most of these folks at higher rates when they realize they don't know the code for the fax machine.

[–] DickFiasco@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago

Or when they have to fix the Fortran program that runs the whole Navy or something.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This doesn't seem in any way legal

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Says who? Under the US legal system, anything is legal if the SCOTUS agrees with it. If Trump declared himself Führer tomorrow they'd validate that as constitutional. At this point suing the US government for its blatantly unconstitutional acts is merely a delaying tactic.

Americans must stop twiddling their thumbs while expecting Trump's DoJ/SCOTUS/congress to work for the American people and start resisting because the key institutions have already fallen to fascism.

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[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

It is if you sign

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

It's not actually a buyout. It's a promise to pay them exactly how much they would make to work for 6 more months and then quit. But they can't quit before then. Also they need to let them know by next week. Also also, there will be no additional severance pay.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

All of them should take it.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 48 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And immediately be replaced by Nazis? I’m not sure that’s a good solution to any problem.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone with a conscience is going to be purged anyway. Either that, or they'll be asked to do unforgiveable things. Better to just take the cash and leave with your soul intact.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 14 points 1 month ago (7 children)

It’s not going to be much cash. Certainly not enough to escape. And, souls don’t remain intact when you sell out to the devil.

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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sometimes when things are going to go bad no matter what happens, it's better to just speed it up rather than draw it out.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Accelerationism is a morally bankrupt philosophy.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Malicious compliance isn't.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

It’s not malicious compliance when you’re helping the bad guys achieve their goal of destroying the federal government.

That’s being a willing accomplice.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Leaving en masse would destroy the federal government quickly. Staying and continuing to work for this administration will destroy the federal government ~~slowly~~ less quickly.

It's just a matter of whether you want to be complicit in opposition to fascism or complicit in cooperation with fascism.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 10 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Leaving the system means no one is in the system to report on what is going on in the system. Accelerationism won’t end how those people think it will. It’s just 100 years of Nazis until the world collapses in on itself and humanity is endangered or extinct.

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[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Im all for malicious compliance, when it makes sense.

Our company tried to cut our house keeping services, and told us we needed to empty trash cans ourself. You bet your sweet ass i made sure everyone charged their engineering charges to "house keeping" for those few minutes. We got house keeping back in about 2 months

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

If Trump makes you an offer, always refuse it.

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

This kind of stupid blanket approach tells you that we have idiots running this country who have no idea what these workers are actually doing, nor what the impact will be of them resigning on the well being and national security of the country.

[–] Spazz 11 points 1 month ago

Break it, then claim it's not working and only you can fix it, straight out of the fascist playbook

[–] KingGordon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
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[–] quafeinum@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Is this president wankpanzer firing people that he will regret to have fired and then rehire them again, again?!

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So what happens when every employee in the IRS takes the offer, quits immediately and goes home?

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