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[–] [email protected] 308 points 1 month ago (9 children)

This meme is way more clever than it should be

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Didn't realize until I read your comment. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I didn't realise until I read that comment, your comment and the other comment about slash direction.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

JFC, thank you. I didn’t realize until it was spelled out for me. I’m definitely not that kind of smart.

This is why I always sucked at games like Myst

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I realized immediately, read the comment, and then went back to look for a deeper meaning. It wasn't there.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not something the Jedi would tell you.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only a sith deals in absolute paths.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I hate that I need to use escape characters when creating something for windows.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Python raw strings to the rescue!

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago

Pathlib is the answer.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nobody is stopping you from using forward slashes. Python will translate the path for the current platform.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Try pathlib. All your problems solved.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Fun fact, though: Linux is the only case-sensitive one.

Edit: I feel silly for forgetting that it's all about the choice of FS. If anyone needs anything from me, I'll be in the corner, coloring.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (3 children)

From a technical standpoint, the windows NTFS filesystem is designed inherently case sensitive, just windows doesn't allow creating case sensitive files.

Connecting an NTFS drive to linux, you can create two separate files readme.txt and Readme.txt.

Using windows, you can see both files in the filesystem, but chances are most (if not all) software will struggle accessing both files, opening readme.txt might instead open Readme.txt or vice versa.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Such a microsoft thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

NTFS was designed back in the mid 90s, when the plan was to have the single NT kernel with different subsystems on top of it, some of those layers (i.e. POSIX) needed case sensitivity while others (Win32 and OS/2) didn't.

It only looks odd because the sole remaining subsystem in use (Win32) barely makes use of any of the kernel features, like they're only just now enabling long file paths.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

For a few years now, Windows has had the capability of marking certain directories as case-sensitive. So you can have a mixed-case-sensitivity filesystem experience now. Yeah. :/

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Although you can use case insensitive filesystems with Linux, and case sensitive filesystems with macOS. I believe the case sensitivity is a function of the specific filesystem


but yeah, practically, the root for Linux is always case sensitive, and APFS ~~ain't~~ is only if you ask it to be ( https://support.apple.com/lv-lv/guide/disk-utility/dsku19ed921c/mac ).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

When case insensitivity is the default I always wonder how many apps unknowingly rely on that due to typos somewhere. I encountered this once while porting a Windows/macOS app to Linux that someone imported a module with the wrong case and nobody noticed

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

I once ran into a bug in an Arduino program where it wouldn't compile. The author blamed my "broken environment". Turned out, he had included "arduino.h" instead of the correct "Arduino.h".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Least favorite part of linux honestly

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Case-insensitive filesystems are for maniacs. They are only causing trouble. Ever had two folders with the same name but different capitalization in windows? You see both, but whichever you click it will always open the same one, while the other can't be accessed. Psychopath behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Hard disagree. I don't understand why anyone would want case insensitive.

Am I the only one who doesn't go around mindlessly capitalizing letters? Do people find it too difficult to capitalize things?

Do you want case insensitive passwords too?

If I type X I mean X and only X. Uppercase letters are different letters, just like X and Y are different letters.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Makes changing the case of a file/folder a lot easier though. Windows you have to rename it to something else then rename it again just to change case but Linux you can just...rename it. It's a small thing but it's something

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You can actually use / as a path separator on Windows in functions like fopen(), because it supports some ancient version of POSIX standard.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

There used to be an undocumented setting in early versions of MS-DOS that would allow the setting of the command option character to something other than the slash, and if you did that, the slash automatically became the path separator. All you needed was SWITCHAR=- in your CONFIG.SYS and DOS was suddenly very Unix-y.

It was taken out after a while because, with the feature being undocumented, too many people didn't know about it and bits of software - especially batch files, would have been reliant on things being "wrong". The modern support for regular slash in API calls probably doesn't use any of the old SWITCHAR code, but it is, in some way, the spiritual descendant of that secret feature.

Here's an old blog that talks about it: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/archive/blogs/larryosterman/why-is-the-dos-path-character

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

The one thing about NT was that it didn't have it's own semantics, but it could emulate any system you wanted. It's the unofficial successor of an OS that was based on creating VMs where you could run any other OS you want.

Then Microsoft decided to create their own system in it, and only really finished writing that one.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Also the internet belongs on the left.

And really, Linux/macos could be reduced to "Unix" https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Unix_history-simple.svg

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And BSD. It's really just Windows vs. literally everything. Or is there anything else that uses backslashes?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

CP/M

Which in this context is named hilariously.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Typical windows behavior

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (7 children)

File systems aren't even real.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't really watch Star Wars. I'm a more of a Trekkie gal.

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See, you can separate files both ways as long as it's logical

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Would it be more efficient to say Unix vs Windows?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

You mean right vs. wrong?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Why fight when you can just do cd /mnt/c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Duel of the fates: \//\

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Linux uses forward slash. Windows uses backslash. Because some dude 45 years ago wanted to make it look different from UNIX.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I understand pre-OS X Macintoshes used colons.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They did! And I weirdly kind of miss them for the entirely non-logical reason that they looked elegant.

Don't get me wrong, I adapted in about 3 seconds when I made the switch to Mac OS X 25 years ago, but I irrationally kinda miss them just a tiny bit.

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