B...b...but the Democrats are genociders so I didn't vote or voted 3rd party to help the Palestinians.
Did I help? Did I help them? Does this help them?
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While I don’t disagree, I feel like we need to talk more about how disconnected the Democratic Party is from what their base actually wants. Them being diet republicans ain’t cutting it
True. But at the same time you're not going to get any of that by not voting and letting Republicans get elected. I mean get you butts out there and primary these centrist lead weights.
If the DNC allowed that y'all wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. I mean hello? 2020 was four years ago.
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Doesnt this boil down to the usual "the left falls in love, while the right falls in line"? hard to fall in love with your alliy's ongoing war crimes and lefties are renowed for not falling in line even against their best interests. Makes it hard to win as an incumbent, though, how did Obama win reelection, he wouldn't have been mistaken for a saint the second time round.
PS: got it, it's because Romney still couldn't make the right fall in line hard enough comparing with the love for Obama.
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None of the votes during this past election would have helped Palestine. That’s the point. You gotta think long term. Dems and Reps suck.
Our two party, single vote system isn’t working for the people and they want you to believe it is. Control your politicians. Don’t let them control you.
For the US, sure.
Letting in the Tangerine Mussolini means there won’t be a Palestine by the end of his term.
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June 29, 2024 US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7
Biden only stopped sending them after there was nothing left to destroy in Gaza.
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There was one shot at helping the people of Palestine, that was the Democrats.
They refused to listen to voters and instead took in billions of lobbying from Zionists.
The only blame lies solely on Kamala and her greed. Imagine thinking stopping Trump was less important than making money.
I wonder if you will keep rehashing the election even as people are being loaded into boxcars?
"I told you trans people to vote third party, but you had to vote for Kamala, didn't you? Bye-bye!"
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Who was president when Israel flattened Gaza? Who sent them the weapons to do it? Why do you excuse Biden and the Democrats role in the genocide just because Trump is worse?
The Harris campaign purposefully ignored anyone asking about Gaza.
“We also didn’t create a new category for Gaza responses out of fear that category would be leaked. Instead we were told to mark them as ‘no response,’” the organizer said, faulting top Harris campaign leaders for failing to address the issue. “The only ‘clowns’ out there are those who were in senior leadership and decided to abdicate on this issue, who silenced a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, and who told us to ignore it every time a voter asked us about Gaza.”
I am increasingly disgusted by liberals. I am never voting Democrat again, it is past Biden or Harris being bad, it is the entire base that is genocidal except with polite rhetoric.
Who is president while Native Americans and Puerto Ricans are being arrested by ICE and threatened with deportation?
Who is president while America gives up on every single climate goal?
Who is president while Elon Musk's people have been given total access to U.S. finances without any sort of security clearances?
I could go on, but I won't, because you are acting like the election was some sort of referendum on Israel. And all I can say to that is that I hope you have the white privilege to not be affected by this at the level of anyone who's skin is a darker shade of peach and the cisgender, heterosexual privilege as well.
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Imagine paying off student loans with that money.
Imagine eliminating homelessness with that money.
No Way Jesus would allow that! /s
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Where are all the “We need to stop sending money overseas” voters? Did they win yet?
Well, they stopped sending money to Ukraine, so I guess thats part of their stance fulfilled.
And stopped enforcing the sanctions on Russia that were created by the legislature. If the executive branch does not execute the laws made by the legislature then we are not a republic. We are now a dictatorship.
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Fun fact: Genocide Donald is the oldest president the United States has ever had.
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Where's all the idiots who wouldn't vote "for genocide" at?
You see it was impossible to take a nuanced position and vote for the lesser of two evils.
But they can claim moral superiority, and we all know that's what's most important when it comes down to it.
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How much military aid did we send to Israel under Biden? And Kamala was different from him, how? How many UN motions were vetoed by a Democrat administration to prolong the genocide? I ate shit and voted for Democrats again, but there was never anyone to vote for that wasn't going to support the genocide of Palestinians.
Biden stopped sending bombs and artillery that was being used to level Gaza.
Those are the exact weapons Trump is starting to send again.
Stop trying to equivocate. Trump is significantly worse for Gaza than Biden or Harris.
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Imagine saying that line unironically. Serious Nazi vibes here at .world.
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How much did Joe send every year?
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axis of evil and has been. you vote democrat, you vote republican, you vote for genocide. simple as.
Yeah, because all things are equal. At least to simpletons.
But you do realize that trump is much much much much worse, right? It’s not just about the genocide, you know.
To some people the genocide overshadows anything else because... Y'know, it is/was a genocide. Telling those people that "it's not just about the genocide" is, frankly, barking up the wrong tree.
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At this point, some people have become walking textbook trolley problems, where to make a choice that makes you moral in one dimension you become a monster in all the others and make everyone worse in the process. But your conscience is safe, thank you for that.
it is safe because i didn't allow myself to reduce supporting genocide to a trolley problem.
Reduce? You people spent months reducing all other issues that affect billions of people well into the future like fighting climate change or keeping civil rights or access to healthcare or labour rights or all 900 pages of project 2025 to the one issue where you have ~~no~~ negative leverage either way by voting for president.
You're the one dumbing down political debate to a single issue, I just framed it in a way that captures the pattern of hundreds of sterile debates I've seen online: you can choose to soil your conscience by collectively choosing to avert disaster or let disaster happen and get nothing in return (probably even worse) for your one cause.
And the worst part is your vote should not even have been decisive, it should have been easier to get 10% of undecided normies to compensate your reluctant 1%, but they are depoliticized and don't care if they live in fascism or not anymore.
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So the same as Biden but liberals have a selective memory.
Here's a few articles to remind the intentionally forgetful liberals:
March 2024 U.S. sends more weapons to Israel amid growing calls for cease-fire
June 2024 US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7
Anyways keep going mask off. Good luck getting any of us to vote Democratic ever again. It is clearly isn't just a few Democratic politicians who are bad, it is the entire party base that's a basket of deplorables to quote a prominent Democrat.
So let's say this issue is a push... Now how about EVERY OTHER FUCKING THING HAPPENING?
STOP trying to draw a false equivalency between the two paths we had available to us.
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So the same as Biden but liberals have a selective memory.
Then I guess there should have been other reasons to stop Trump from getting into office.
Good luck getting any of us to vote Democratic ever again.
You still think Republicans will have elections that aren't the kind they have in Russia.
Amazing how many people still think America still works by the rules.
Good on the AFP for being willing to put the critical context in the headline instead of just trying to present bland data.
Where are all the fascists that are crying about less government and keeping our money in the US and only for the US?
Wasn't that the whole argument of dismantling USAID?
Answer: Republicans are full of shit and so are Musk, Donald, Vance and all the rest.
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