this post was submitted on 17 Feb 2025
297 points (100.0% liked)

politics

23036 readers
2943 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

A growing Republican backlash, including hospitals and Steve Bannon, is challenging Trump’s proposed Medicaid cuts.

The GOP budget seeks at least $880 billion in reductions, risking healthcare access for millions. Bannon warned that many MAGA voters rely on Medicaid, while hospitals and moderate Republicans urged caution, fearing economic harm.

Speaker Mike Johnson supports work requirements but lacks enough fraud-related savings to meet budget goals.

Critics argue the cuts could gut essential services, contradicting Trump’s promise not to harm Medicaid recipients.

all 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 152 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Reminder that Bannon is an ethno-fascist who's just pissy that he's been sidelined for techno-fascists. If his goals align with anti-fascists for the moment, great, but don't for a second think that he is any less vile or dangerous than Trump, Musk, or any of the other chittering goobers that are gnawing away at our democracy right now.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

At this point I'd say we're deep into the 'enemy of my enemy' area. Focus on the one actively ruining things, then deal with the rest later. The trap we'd need to avoid is continuing to treat people like Bannon as allies once Trump and Musk have been dealt with, an issue that happens a lot with this kind of situation.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Fuelling ego-jostling and in-fighting is pretty much the main approach any opposition has for limiting the effectiveness of this administration until the mid-terms. They don't seem especially concerned about following the law, after all.

If they're all singing from the same sheet, they will be ruthlessly efficient in their destruction. If they're busy sniping each other, they're not actively focused on harming people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

He’s vile, no question. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, but you don’t rely on it or consider it quality.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I'm just wondering which group is going to night-of-the-long-knives the other first.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I just like seeing them fight.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Bannon's an actual supervillain because he's not abjectly stupid like Trump.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I’d say the same for Vance after his comments on the legality of the Judiciary Branch checking the power of the Executive Branch. Of course he knows better. He graduated Yale Law, yet people seem to underestimate him. It’s a dangerous combination.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

He’s adaptive, but not sure if he can lead, time will tell.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Their skills complement each other quite well. If evil has mind and heart, we got both in America right now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Money part is covered too.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bannon knows if they don't precisely fuck over the right people then the entire thing will backfire.

The dude is a complete fucking psychopath but he's right.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The old guard GOP IMO has raised a populist dragon they can no longer effectively control. McConnell, the Fox News media cabal, and other old guards never stopped to realize that eventually their dragon would start to turn on them. The brand of populism used doesn't always line up with traditional GOP aims. If they harm the wrong crowd, the populist branch could quickly turn on them.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The amazing thing is it's not even the first time they've leveraged a movement for votes and then lost control of it. A century ago, the Republican Party was just the corporatocracy party. This doesn't get you votes and they were getting annihilated by the Democrats, so they used the Southern Strategy to get the racist vote. They didn't actually care one way or the other, but it got them votes. Then the racists started getting elected as Republicans and the corpocrats lost control of the party for a while. Then they did it with evangelicals and had the same problem. Now they've done it with fascists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Great points and well put.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Or we could tax people who make over $400k/yr. More so if you make over $10million (didn’t Warren have a plan for that at one point?).

Instead of cutting everything people who make less than $150k/yr rely on.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's what Biden was planning to do and the media started crusade that he shouldn't run.

Harris no longer had this promise, but they killed her off anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Doesnt seem like it would have mattered by the way voting went. Even if Biden had beat Trump, the Senate and Congress would have been Republican still. So while our Republic would have stayed standing, no real changes Biden would have tried for would have ever happened.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I disagree, the results in Congress very much are about which votes show up.

Also Biden was much more appealing to swing states than Harris was.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

But if we do that how will the uber rich afford their 4th homes? Could you imagine getting by with just three homes?

(In truth, if too much wealth ends in the hands of the few, there won't be enough money to sustain the consumption needed for economies to prosper.)

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

These fucking "plays" happen in public to distract you from larger things. These parasites need each other, don't believe their horseshit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I like that his wording indicates that hurting people by taking away healtrhcare is fine, just that they need to be careful not to hurt to many people who support you.

"It's fine if you kill grandma, just make sure you kill a grandma and grandpa who would have voted against you when you do so."

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fuck Steve Bannon. I hope this piece of shit dies in a fire.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Fuck Bannon just like fuck Michael Cohen

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

...has no one seen the Phantom Menace? you always win when your team is playing both sides, even superficially...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Thus bringing us one step closer to the night of long knives

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

A little late for any GOP to be complaining now. This is exactly what they voted for. None of what is happening now is a surprise; it was well known during the election.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Steve Bannon siding with Joe and Jane average is a weird timeline. JFC

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

When Trump promised not to harm Medicaid recipients, he meant that he would not personally assault a Medicaid recipient. Of course, being Trump, that probably means he’ll do it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Unpopular opinion here, but GOOD. I want cuts to medicaid, medicare, and social security. I want the people who voted for this to get what they wanted.

I don't use any of those systems, and as far as I am concerned, we are at the point of ever person for themselves. Cut it all, I can fend for myself and I'm done paying for moochers who voted against my rights.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

As someone who didn't vote for this and is currently struggling to get basic needs met, fuck you. Sincerely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

This country is going to be destroyed by apathy. Use that anger. Riot. Disobey. If a bunch of people are getting their needs met then things go on as they were while each group is picked off in turn. My family is already collateral damage, and most people, many of whom collect social security and are on Medicare and Medicaid are fine with that until it affects them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

do you prefer living surrounded by destitute desperate misery? when its every person for themselves you wont fend for nada.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

It depends on if that is the thing that wakes people out of apathy. I don't wish misery on anyone, but considering the voter turnout in the last election, we deserve to suffer together.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How is life with a brain that can only think in one dimension?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The blueberries taste like chlorine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yet another unnecessary accelerationist in a world where the brakelines were cut years ago and the bus has been speeding up all on its own.

"I can fend for myself" is the extremely naive thought that cut those brakes. No human is an island, and everyone is connected to everyone, past and present.

And "good, they should suffer because they deserve it" is the extremely evil thought that placed the brick on the accelerator. It's the same thought that drives decisions like defunding healthcare.

So, congrats on being a part of the problem. Enjoy cheering for the suffering of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

..... Is Steve Bannon suddenly one of the good guys?

I get that this is a broken clock is right twice a day situation but still, it feels wrong, somehow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

… Is Steve Bannon suddenly one of the good guys?

No. He's just been pushed to the side and is pissy about it. I'll appreciate his involvement in resisting that maybe he can pull off some of the supporters, but at the end of the day, he's still an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The enemy of my enemy isn't really a friend but I'm willing to support them sometimes?

[–] tinkling4938 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hope this guy chokes on his own shit a

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

He savors that flavor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

steve bannon... welcome to the resistance

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Now step right this way. Yes, put your head in the hole.