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I've been trying to get more veggies, for a multitude of reasons, but no matter how I cook broccoli, it stinks up the whole house. Steamed, baked, pan fried. If it were just me I'd probably deal with it, but my partner has a sensitive nose. Any ideas? I don't love it raw, but it's still pretty good.

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Baked didn't work?

We do that as the default, and the smell is never there.

Here's our process.

First, defrost if frozen. Otherwise you're essentially steaming it as it thaws in the oven, which means that instead of browning up and getting sweeter, you end up with the sulfur compounds forming before that can happen.

If not frozen, you should be fine to start.

If you're working from whole heads of broccoli, break it down into roughly even sized florettes, with the stems being cut down to maybe a half inch or so.

Make sure it's well oiled. It helps the heat transfer, which reduces the end smell. A big bowl helps get it evenk drizzling really isn't great for roast veggies imo.

Season after oiling; the salt, pepper and optionals will stick better and not burn. Now, here's an optional, but it really is highly recommended. Acid. Lemon juice, apple cider vinegar, white wine or champagne vinegar, even balsamic. It helps break up the chemicals as they form and get released. Sliced lemons work too, though definitely keep the juices and add them too.

Preheat to 400 or 425. No lower, you want the heat to be high enough that it cooks fast, fifteen to twenty minutes, checking at 15 and staying close after. If you have a convection oven, go with 400 for sure, and check at about 12 minutes and keep a close eye on it.

You want the broccoli browned, and fork tender. Once it hits that, pull it.

Over cooking is where the smell comes from. So if you get the first hint of that sulfur smell, pull it immediately, even if it isn't done, since you don't want the smell. Carry over cooking can finish the job, it just won't be as yummy without that deep browning.

Roasting is the least "smelly" option.

Steaming, the window is short between perfectly cooked and smelly. Maybe as little as a minute. Lots of lemon slices over the top helps though.

Boiling, you gotta parboil, blanche, then repeat. It keeps the sulfur compounds from taking over before it's cooked through.

Deep fried works, but it really seems like a bad idea to me. Why eat something as healthy as broccoli and dump it into hot oil? It adds unnecessary calories even if you drain it well, and breaded broccoli ia similar, plus you don't taste the broccoli as much.

[–] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

This homie broccolis

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is all awesome, thank you.

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[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is exactly how we roast our broccoli too. It’s excellent.

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[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fascinating thread. Is there some genetic component that makes broccoli stinky to some people and not others? Is this why some people are averse to broccoli? I'm surprised to see everyone just accepting the premise of the question. I love boiling broccoli precisely because it smells amazing.

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

I’ve also wondered if there’s varieties. Maybe where I live, they’re different tasting and smelling? Broccoli has only ever been one of the vegetables to me. Nothing repulsive (or even noteworthy).

Even as a kid it was weird to see cartoon characters complain about specifically broccoli while I literally munched it while watching.

Now when it spoils, yes, it can get a little sulfury, as can cauliflower, its cousin. But fresh broccoli?

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder if it's similar to those that think cilantro tastes like soap.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It's different. You posted elsewhere that broccoli had sulfurophane compounds which contribute to the smell. Sulfur is pretty universally stinky. It's in the rotten egg smell, skunks, and fireworks. So if sulfur is involved, it will likely have a strong odor. Cilantro is a genetic issue. There's a gene on the 11th chromosome that allows a small percentage of people to taste the aldehyde components of the plant giving it a soap-like taste to those people.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I've never noticed a bad smell, but instant pot for 1 minute high pressure is quickest way to cook.

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[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Where do you live that broccoli smells like anything unappetizing? This is absolutely insane. Maybe wash your vegetables before cooking them?

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Smells fine raw, just makes a stink when I cook it. Already washed. Also KY US

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

KY US

there’s your problem.

But in all seriousness—broccoli shouldn’t be stinking up your house. I call shenanigans.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I mean the rest of the thread corroborates 🤷 not sure what else to say.

First result in google:

The sulforaphane compound in some cruciferous vegetable molecules. The sulfur odor indicates a vegetable possesses excellent health properties. Cruciferous (fibrous) veggies include kale, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, and many others.

This is far too serious an issue to invoke shenanigans!

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

When I googled “broccoli smell” every single result stated “you’re overcooking it” so I guess that’s what you’re doing. I have literally never experienced this so I guess I win at cooking broccoli.

Thus I rescind my suspicion of shenanigans and submit instead INCOMPETENCE

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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Don't waste your time responding to idiots.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

stop buying the stinky broccoli.

[–] exasperation@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You might be overcooking it. Once the cell walls rupture too much, the sulfur compounds spread out and start to overpower the rest of the vegetable. It should still be somewhat firm/crisp when you bite into it.

You might also be using broccoli that's had too many of the cell walls ruptured from processing before cooking. If you're cutting with a dull knife, especially into small pieces, or smashing it somehow before cooking, those smells will leak out a bit faster.

Or, if you're cooking from frozen, the ice crystals might have mushed up the vegetable.

Here's the two main ways I cook broccoli:

Blanched: cut broccoli into big florets, big enough to constitute two big bites. Boil a lot of water, salted to about 2% salinity. Once it's a rolling boil, put the broccoli in, and set a timer for 4 minutes. As soon as the timer goes off, dump the broccoli into a strainer and run cold water over it, or dunk it in ice water, to stop the cooking process. Serve and eat.

Roasted: cut broccoli into big florets. Toss in oil, and season with salt and pepper. Preheat oven with a sheet pan in it, to 450°F. Once preheated, take the broccoli and place it in a single layer on the sheet pan. It should sizzle. Roast for about 15-20 minutes, optionally flipping once (better char if you don't flip it, but it's only on one side).

Optional seasonings: garlic, pepper, red pepper flakes, lemon juice, honey, bread crumbs, pine nuts, any combination of the above. Works with either blanched or roasted.

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[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

This is the single best answer if it needs to be cooked.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Man, I used broccoli all the time. Just chuck it in the over for a bit, or stir fry it. No stink, delicious, crisp, bright, crunchy.

These days I don't cook as often and people who do just insist on boiling it or steaming it into mush, which is like dropping a stink bomb in the kitchen and turns it into puree. Broccoli is meant to be green, not brown, you guys.

On the plus side you can recycle that absolutely gross overdone broccoli into vegan burger patties and it's actually good like that. Still, you have to get through the stinkbomb part first.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How the fuck so you get brown broccoli from boiling it? Mines boiled and while it isn't always snappable, it's definitely always a vibrant green.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

The answer is patience.

And no, it's not.

I know, I'm horrified by this, too.

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[–] tkw8@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Outside on the BBQ lol

[–] aturtlesdream@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I love it in the air fryer, similar to baked broccoli, just a bit more crispy

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[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you tried blanching? I never noticed a strong smell that way.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Not yet, will consider and research

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Broccoli is probably the least offensive of the Brassicas but they all stink when cooking. Baking in a casserole or something that covers the broccoli completely might work. I imagine the only stink free way would be raw or possibly suis vide.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just the fan over the stove?

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lawl, ours doesn't vent outside, just has a filter then pumps it out the top

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Honestly, broccoli is wonderful microwaved. Put it in a covered dish with just a little water. For a couple servings, I do on high like 2.5 minutes. Easy to adjust the time to get it just the way you want it. You can't get it crispy that way, but it's basically like perfectly steamed.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Frozen broccoli on baking sheet. Toss with olive oil and seasoning ( I like to use Montreal steak)

425° for 25 minutes

Stir halfway through cooking. It's easy, no smell, and easy to remember bc 425 twice. (425 ° for 25 minutes)

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I hope that's Fahrenheit...

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope that's Fahrenheit...

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol yes. We are weird in America

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For real, F makes no sense for cooking. I can get the argument for outside temps, but I'll pick metric over imperial any day

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I get it, but it's what all our ovens and recipes say here. Even if there's a way to change it on the oven, the recipes are still going to be in F, and then you're going to have to do a bunch of conversions, so doesn't make much sense here.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What’s wrong with your windows.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Well, privacy violations, a memory intensive OS without much benefit, decades old code that should be cleaned up.

........oh, you mean sliding glass panes in the home.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well it was 12⁰ the other day....

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[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

New partner? Nose plugs?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly I’ve never had broccoli do that on me.

Preheat to 425. Just do bite-sized florets on a baking sheet, drizzle (or spray) with a bit of oil (I use avocado), and dust with salt + pepper + whatever else you want. Roast them for 12 mins; add a bit of time if you want more of a char, and/or less crispness. There’s a sweet spot of balance you’re looking for. Remove; optionally spritz with lemon.

Under no circumstances should you boil or steam broccoli (or any vegetable, unless it’s a blanche/par-boil). That’s disgusting. We want to experience the texture and flavor of the vegetable. We are not feeding an infant incapable of consuming solid food.

My grandmother may or may not have murdered more than her fair share of vegetables when I was a wee lad.

Edit: derp, of course: I assume your partner is a super-sensory person? I’ve got a good friend whose husband is a super-taster. It honestly sounds like a pain - like you’re so hypersensitive to that sense that almost everything is just an overload :(

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