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[–] [email protected] 251 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

oh I absolutely believe the allegation as plausible.

They NEEDED a fall guy for this and they NEEDED it to be so cut and dry that they could quickly make an example of him.

Even if Luigi DID do it? This is railroading for the sake of trying to scare everyone else to stay in place.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

That's the thing... Everyone is acting like this guy totally do it.

From the start I had my doubts. Something felt off.

The only thing I know is that the government needs somebody to go to prison over this. They don't care who though. This is the culture of law enforcement, so not even specific to Luigi's case.

So we have to believe that they found this dude in fucking McDonald's with everything on him to get a conviction?!

But people are buying it... Sure he has support but they also believe that he is a the guy who committed the crime. And I am just not convinced.

Government behaviour around this case is suspect.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Feels too... Tidy really. Too much like something out of a movie. High profile murder. Killer found. Killer has clear motive and everything is found on or near the guy. Suspect makes statements that sound like something Killer would say in that position.

A line from the Running man comes to mind.

'Once again proving Might and Right are one and the same!'

In reference to a fake staged fight where State Sponsored Execution Reality TV kills a stunt double digitally made to look like the fugitive of the moment that has been making a mockery of The System. very neat. very tidy. Also, very Bullshit.

Edit: For the sake of records. I do believe he did it. I just find it too... tidy that everything was on hand to immediately bring a trial rather than months of legwork to ensure an air tight case.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Imagine if it's actually not him, and the real guy was able to get away because nobody's looking any more.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That would be hilarious if he gets convicted and the next day another shooting happens with the same guy on camera again.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

he is-a the guy

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

How would it benefit the rich to have the real killer running lose while a random guy goes to jail??

This is the weirdest conspiracy so far.

It’s him, he did it, and praise him for doing it, he’s a legend. Neither he or his lawyers are denying it.

It’s super weird that people on the Internet are insisting it isn’t him

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh I ABSOLUTELY am of the belief that it is him. However, I find it strange that so much proof was supposedly found on him to the point that he might as well have been standing in time's square shouting that he did it. There was no need to backtrace through his history, go through his home, interview friends or family. It was all There.

That is what strikes me as ... too convenient.

They don't want to go to the trouble of having this long drawn out process. They want thier gunman handed on a silver platter both to please the corporate overlords, and to show that they are competent.

...when they are anything but.

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[–] [email protected] 162 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

How insane would it be if he got off due to a technicality. Not holding my breath, but here's hoping.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really that insane. Cops are mostly useless and fuck shit up all the time.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mostly. Have a look at this chart to see their real impact.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Alec Baldwin got off because of screw-ups like this. Seems like when there's a high profile case, all the big shots who normally don't do any work all want to jump in and be involved. And then make stupid mistakes because they don't have any real experience because they're normally too important to work a case.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

On the flip side, if they illegally discover evidence but can prove an alternative, legal, way it could be discovered it becomes admissible. That's sometimes why they do it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It has a word too, something like Alternative Reconstruction. I used to know the term.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

"parallel construction" or "evidence laundering"

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Civil rights aren't a technicality. If he 'got off' it would be a victory for everyone who enjoys not being harassed by police.

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Really appears like they planted a backpack full of evidence on this innocent person, cops were desperate for a win

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Then botched his 4th Amendment rights and will likely get away with it becuase government needs him in prison for this to make the parasite class happy

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Republican judges have been itching to do away with the exclusionary rule. It's not written into the Constitution.

The 4th prohibits unlawful search and seizure but doesn't specify a remedy. The exceptions practically swallow the rule as it is now; attenuation of the taint, good faith, public safety, independent source, inevitable discovery, to name a few.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

The IMPORTANT thing is to KEEP using RANDOM ass UPPERCASE in CLICKBAIT title SENTENCES. That is NOT at ALL irritating.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

SPEAK UP BROTHER, I ONLY HEARD HALF OF WHAT YOU SAID!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The most important part is to use MEANINGLESS HYPERBOLE like SLAMMED and EXPLOSIVE

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh SHIT, his lawyer EXPLODED? With all the FEDERAL CUTS to staffing I WONDER, did they still have A JANITOR to clean her GUTS OFF THE WALLS?

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

There is zero chance any judge going to exclude the conviction starter package the "police found on him"

You don't go through all of that parallel construction to have it gutted like that.

Trust me bro a guy who shot the parasite CEO decided to carry all of the evidence needed for conviction on him for 5 days 🤡

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It's not entirely out of the question, but it does require considerable evidence. It's possible that he carried it so that it wouldn't be left somewhere as evidence, until he could get somewhere that he could safely destroy it.

That said, there are some pretty gaping holes with that explanation that would need to be filled first.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Any number of thousands of dumpsters between NY and PA would have worked fine.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember the eye brows on the photos. That is not Luigi in the photos!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

This is such a weird ass conspiracy that even Luigi and his lawyers aren’t denying it’s him, yet people on Lemmy are. Wtf

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Police misconduct allegations could unravel this case—constitutional rights aren't optional.

😺😺😺

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

They most definitely are

Continuing to pray for the Louisiana Supreme Court to all get lung cancer

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

BREAKING: We have an unexpected ruling from the United States Supreme Court today. In a 6-3 decision they have ruled... wait this is really it? They have ruled "Hold My Beer."

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago

Please be true

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Everyday police overreaching actually is a benefit for a change. Cool.

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