Thank you for expressing what I've never been able to put into words

Some people do have the capacity to express this sentiment, if only for a few hours a week or month. And they'll dedicate that time to crisis centers like the one in the message, where it can save a life or at least pause an irreversible decision in the moment.

People do not give a fuck. But sometimes they do.

Thank you.

I feel like most of these comments are really out there, like a cry for help.

That's the heartbreaking part - so many would genuinely rather hear about your death than have to suffer your "whining" (most would not admit that though). I suppose it takes all kinds of people in this world...

Came to say the same thing. It’s awesome to be optimistic and wholesome, but very few people care that in depth. It’s also really hard to shoulder someone at that level.

Especially with males.

I also have clinical depression and I really get the lack of support. Nevertheless, I would give him the benefit of the doubt. I think what he's emphasizing is the "no one" part. There are some, fewer than id like, people that want to see the world a better place and we gotta support each other

Speaking for myself, personally, I also don't like the maximalism. It is (should) also (be) okay to talk about your depression, anxiety and issues, if you aren't at all suicidal and in no risk of becoming suicidal. Imagining reading something like this as past me, who was more stuck in depression than today, I'd read it as "okay, I know I am not at all suicidal, so I better not talk about my issues so that the ones that are can have all the resources, as I am not worthy of them."

The truth is: Professionals (including specialised hotlines) and really, really good friends (and ironically, sometimes strangers on the internet) are the only ~~truly~~ mostly reliable places to vent and find support without risking being misunderstood, and/or them not following through at all. And you have to build from there, with their help.

I used to have a bunch of toxic friends in my 20s where someone goes "I'm struggling" and someone replies "Everyone is. Stop bringing us down." That was the clearest way I saw that.

These days, I see it in different ways. The coworker that's just TMIs and people give that look to them/tell them that this is a professional setting. Or during a check-in, someone goes, "Everything is great" and holding it all in.

I have a friend that pops up every so often. And my parents never say hi to my friend. Rude.

Beautiful name because it's a riff off of Thelonious Monk, a beautiful jazz musician that I place in my top 3 of musicians. Other two being John Coltrane and Miles Davis. Honorable mention would be Chet Baker as he is definitely up there, but listening to Chet just brings you into a whole different mood. Much preferable on a gloomy, rainy day with a cup of coffee or tea in hand.

Anyways, Fuck Nazi's.

I dunno. I was suicidally depressed all day every day for nearly 20 years, and there were people I love who were very consistently supportive. As always, ymmv, but saying it has no basis in reality is false. If the human actions in this post did not exist, I would be dead. Instead, I made it to middle age.

It doesn’t always happen, but there are people that back up feeling the way the post describes with action.

We bond over that shared trauma, then go kick rocks together to cope.

I think this sounds nice, but often even with close people this doesn't work well and a depressed person risks damaging the relationship. A spouse or best friend will sometimes deal with it for a year. They often won't deal with it for yearS. I have a hard time envisioning you've been extraordinarily depressed before, even if you've been technically depressed and took Proaz for a month, and I doubt anything like that has even happened.

This is the view of someone who is slightly bummed out and not horribly depressed.

Some people have children murdered in war, damaged body parts, or people they love dead. Others have tried to date over and over, exercise and eat healthy, and are single virgins at 30 because no one finds them romantically attractive. Other people have extreme financial hardships while dealing with chronic incurable medical conditions like Huntington's.

Don't take this the wrong way, but for the people whose children were murdered in war, eating veggies may not improve things much.

The desire to thrive at any cost usually only exists when problems are theoretically fixable. You can't bring back dead children, someone who has lost a body part and has chronic phantom pain isn't going to become a neuroscientist and solve that problem while in chronic pain.

I feel like platitudes like that "Just overcome it bro. Exercise and veggies and grit" don't help the majority of people with severe emotional problems. Once again, these ideas seem like ideas that help you, the reader of that post, feel better about depression existing rather than do anything for people who are depressed.

But I feel like you are in good company because it feels like 90 percent of mental health posts and slogans are really "Your depression is inconvenient for me and society and your possible suicide down the line may upset me. We support you! Call this number so we can lock you up and drug you, then bill you $30,000 and force you to work even harder while drugged up so we feel less annoyed about your ennui and sorrow."

Like I get that your transitory sadness has been something you overcome with tech bro grit, but tech bro grit doesn't overcome most reasons for severe depression that results not in brief suicide ideation but like getting to the stage of "What method will work best for me?" when people start buying tools to help them die or coming up with timelines and rewriting wills and debating whether to try to make it seem accidental so as to not harm loved ones.

I am glad you have grit and this works for you. Keep pushing. I just don't like the messaging in society that feels like this needs to be a solvable problem because others are annoyed or saddened by it.

If your will to live is to "win" against other people, I'm glad it keeps you going. But surely you can imagine that not motivating everyone?