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We’re upgrading Google Assistant users on mobile to Gemini, offering a new kind of help only possible with the power of AI.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Gemini might be good at something, but I'll never know because it is bad at all the things I have ever used the assistant for. If it's good at anything at all, it's something I don't need or want.

Looking forward to 2027 when Google Gemini is replaced by Google Assistant (not to be confused with today's Google Assistant, totally different product).

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seriously, I tried Gemini for a while but it is mostly useless. It can it open my apps, cannot control Home Assistant, cannot send a message to someone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it has a total lack of any of the integrations that made Assistant actually useful.

Even if an LLM offers meaningful improvements on the core conversational elements of Assistant, launching it without all the needed integrations is idiotic and completely hamstrings the functionality.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

I swapped to Gemini for a month or two. Kept thinking to myself "maybe I'm not speaking clearly," and other justifications. Turns out it just sucks. Now I just do everything manually. Fuck em.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

🤣 Gemini is the worst of all the ais. It can't even do the most basic shit like set reminders.

Google has fallen so hard. They are just pure ad garbage now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Timers are literally the only thing I use it for.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Just like Google Assistant

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No fucking thanks! Gemini is garbage.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I use Google Assistant a lot. I tried the Gemini Assistant on my phone and it was an exercise in frustration.

Me: (after pausing the tv) "Resume TV"

Google: (resumes playback on TV)

Gemini: "TV not recognised. Please say the device name" or even worse... "A resume is essential when you're looking for a job in television. Your resume should blah blah..."


Me: (with phone locked) "set a timer for xxx"

Google: "setting a timer for xxx, starting now"

Gemini: "I'm unable to set timers, please unlock your phone, open xxx and (lengthy step by step instructions)", or "setting a timer for yyy" (completely wrong time).

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They activated Gemini at work to auto-complete stuff in emails. I work in IT, and I was not aware of that. I was typing the sentence "we will need some help" and was about to add "in the project blah blah" but Gemini came with its amazing auto-completion and added something like "in the street where they sell sausages".

AI was a mistake, and I didn't use it since that day. Waste of time, waste of everything.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Gemini is hardly an uprade to Assistant, though. Gemini can't do any task automation (aka the one thing Google Assistant could do) because it's a LLM that most likely doesn't even 'know' that it's being run on a phone....

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

They already fucked up assistant so bad that it can't even set timers anymore... )):

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Yes. This is why I've disabled it repeatedly when it supplants my assistant.

If they remove automation, well, that was the one thing standing between me and de-googling.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If this is pushed through a silent update then I'll use adb to remove it. I don't need a useless ai assistant hogging precious memory.

I feel bad for for the folks who have their phone gimped overnight and they won't have no clue why. So many people with older phones are going to need to upgrade because of this forced update. Talk about e-waste.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It probably already is. AICore is a service thats been getting snuck on the andoids for a couple of months, ever since AndroidSystemSafety was push on silently, which is effectively like recall and scans all your photos and files in the background.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I got the change and immediately put it back to Google assistant. I don't want AI. I want to tell my phone when to set my alarm clock.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I find Gemini has better communication and comprehension ability compared with assistant, but can do even less when it comes to controlling the phone. No reminders, no calendar events, no messages, no integration with anything. Just talking.

I would have preferred assistant talk and understand better, instead of a completly gimped alternative that does that and nothing more.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Integrations with the phone's functionality is key. I don't care how clever the brain is, it needs to talk to the rest of the body.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly, and maybe I'm a outlier, but I have no intention of speaking to my device like it's a human. Ever.

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Google Assistant: Let's build a product around functionality.

Gemini: Let's build functionality around a product.

Any guess which method works better?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Works better to satisfy shareholders?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Well, too bad, i have replaced Google on my phone.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Good thing I never used Google Assistant then.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I feel bad for visually impaired.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Astute point, they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater here and hurting the disabled community to push their inferior product that nobody really asked for.

Just because I don't use it doesn't mean others who need it also don't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

It happens, we forget the sheet diversity of experiences because we're human. I try to have multiperspectivity, but even that is limited to one's own experiences and imaginative abilities, on the best days.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I feel jealous for the hearing impaired. Just think of everyone and they're dog showing off how dumb it is all the time.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I actually use it a bunch for setting reminders and it does pretty good at that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

For sure, but I am also capable of doing that with my thumbs.... which is what I do.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Once again, thank goodness for GrapheneOS.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Never have I appreciated not having features so much.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Will they hold the power button hostage again?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Translation: your phone runs fine right now.... Well not anymore! Introducing more Bloatware! Your phone has never crawled like this before.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

I have no idea of the difference other than I feel slightly like a downgrade when I cant do simple things that Inused to be able to. The biggest difference isnlikely to be my privacy and data.

Google on tap was all I needed and they have removed and it readded it multiple times...it is currently the only gemini feature I use. And its not a gemini feature.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

When your hands are wet or you can't grab your phone....the one thing I used Google assistant for, Gemini can't do.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Terrible idea. Every time I look at toggling it on just to test, it explicitly lists features that I use as ones which will be disabled by the switch.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there a viable replacement to google assistant that's self hosted or local?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Home assistant

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Also except my Pixel running Graphene OS.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Gemini eats glue. We need a much more reliable model to replace Assistant.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Is there a tradein program to get my old phone back?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I don't want that at all. Well I guess I can't use hands free anymore. Thanks google.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Gemini works as a general search engine, but it's trash at everything else.

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