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[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 66 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah holy shit, we really went through eras playing games, theyve pretty much only ever known fortnite, like modern 18 year olds

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 23 points 2 weeks ago

Either only Fortnite, or a mix of that + Minecraft + Roblox.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Nah, zoomers went through the whole indie horror game gauntlet, Minecraft, terraria, etc.

Edit Addendum: Also, don't forget about games like Friday Night Funkin and the plethora of mods that it spawned. The Five Nights at Freddy's fandom was basically a cult at some point and still memed. Cuphead was a big enough phenomenon to get it's own animated series. Stardew Valley is another game that will doubtless have influence beyond it's years. Motherfucking Undertale, sans memes, etc. VA-11 HALL-A was pretty popular for a while too. Don't forget about Among Us. Lethal Company is still getting updates. SCP Secret Laboratory is another one people forget about, but is still a game with a dedicated player base. Kenshi...oh man great game released in 2018. Fucking Persona 5 and Metaphor ReFantaszio, great games. MiSide is a new game, a horror game that doubtless has a small yet dedicated following. No Man's Sky is great, especially after they fixed it. Many Gen-Z doubtless remember Subnautica. Ultrakill is something that is quite special.

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[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Gen X version:

Year 1: Pong

Year 5: PacMan

Year 10: Super Mario Brothers

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We got lied to so hard on cover art, it took decades to believe anything.

Adventure: Cover.

Adventure: Reality.

This site shows some top lies, and shows that Activision, didn't lie so much.

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[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I mean, they can still play the old games. My kiddo loved Kirby on the NES Classic

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The point of the meme is the experience of witnessing the unique rate of progress in game engines, not the variety. There's definitely more variety now than ever before, if you go looking for it l, and I say that as a 40 year old curmudgeon.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 17 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Exactly. Several limits were loosened or removed entirely. The SNES was the first console with actual pixel transparency, the PSX, despite being weaker than the Saturn and the N64, was the king of the 90s. The jump in graphical and sound quality was always night and day from the Atari era all the way to the PS3/360 era (sound probably peaked in the PS2 era, with DVD quality)

Even on the PC, the jump from 3 years' worth of advances was astonishing. Just compare the original Doom, 1993, with Quake, 1996

And here's Quake 3, 1999

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

You think they didn't do different things? Play different games?

Don't be an old crusty fucker

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some millennial have been playing WoW for over twenty years at this point.

[–] beepbeeplettuce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is me except it's RuneScape

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is an critique on the gaming industry, not the players.

I remember moving from the first sims to the second which was a spectacular difference, and then the sims 3 expanding on the tech with an open world. You could smell the future on the book that came in the box with the disc that you read on the way home.

Compare the early and modern versions of wolfenstein. The first game was revolutionary, can you tell apart generic stills from the last 3 games?

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I haven’t seen much improvement to game mechanics or graphics in the last decade, personally. Just little nudges forward, sidegrades, or screaming drops back to the worst, most capitalist parts of the 80s

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[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

I would hope it is more of the magic of dreaming of the future of video game graphics. It was so exciting to see the next generation of graphics come out.

I am hoping to see the same with VR. But unless there is some kind of technological breakthrough that they are willing to sell to consumers, I don't see it jumping forward very fast over the next few decades.

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[–] swearengen@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

This is just perceived technological advances in the same span of time, not what games different generations prefer.

While Moore's Law isn't dead the slow down is apparent. From game graphics to phones and other areas of life, the perception is stagnation.

For example I'd notice little difference in a flagship android phone from 10 years ago or AAA video game compared to something that came out this year. Hell I might gain some features like a headphone jack or IR blaster.

You couldn't say the same if you went back 10 years from 2012 to 2002 tech. You'd go from a smartphone to a cellphone that probably didn't even have a color screen nevermind a camera, web browser, touchscreen etc.

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[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 33 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

this is just a millenial version of a boomer meme. you guys are really shaping up to become what you hated. complaining about kids these days not enjoying the same shit you did when you were a kid. what next, you gonna complain about how gen alpha are destroying the economy because they're not buying avocados or something?

stop the inter-generational fighting, honestly, it's cringe and a huge distraction from the fact that the rich fucks in charge are looting us for all we're worth. let's fight them, instead of eachother

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 25 points 2 weeks ago

complaining about kids these days not enjoying the same shit you did when you were a kid

I have 0 idea how you could have read that from the image. It's about the seemingly exponential improvement in graphics or just how fast things were changing in gaming.

[–] aamram@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

Problem with your generation is that you get offended by anything. You just proved that point. This meme was just to understand the massive graphical improvement that has been going on through the years.

[–] tauren@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

stop the inter-generational fighting, honestly, it’s cringe and a huge distraction from the fact that the rich fucks in charge are looting us for all we’re worth

Bro, take a deep breath, that is just a meme. People can be nostalgic sometimes, there is nothing wrong with that.

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[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago
[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

Hey dingus, it's not complaining about you, it's about being sad for you that you'll never experience that level of innovation since companies are all "minecraft fortnite skyrim again" and nothing else.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

How are you so triggered by this? Holy fuck chill

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Zoomers will do this in 40 years too. Same as it ever was.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

How did you take this personally? I saw it as a criticism of the industry

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[–] Downpour@programming.dev 32 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Real boomer energy. While graphics improvement flattened out, other things (that are more important) have continued improving.

Off the top of my head.. Zoomers got: Disco Elysium, The Outer Wilds, Undertale, and a million other indies.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 21 points 2 weeks ago

Most of these titles don't have mainstream appeal though. The example is true for the majority of players.

I do love me some indie games (probably 95% of what I play atm are Noita and Balatro) but I'll admit it was really cool as a child / teenager / young adult to see the improvements over time.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, millennials also got those

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Gen X version:

(Had to cheat and put an arcade game for 1980, because I'm not aware of any notable console games from that year. In reality the console games from then looked much, much worse than Pac-Man)

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Even as a millennial this is one of the first games I played (and I still love it). I dumped the ROM so I can play it forever.

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[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

VR actually went through this from 2014-2024 or so. the original Oculus DK had such chonky pixels, very rudimentary tracking, game integration sucked, no hand controls. it rapidly got better to the point where playing Riven is like straight up being teleported into the world..

..except for like, being able to run around or touch things. so it's stayed niche.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

What's the status of VR right now? Any major advancement? I know oculus got bought by Facebook, so no way in hell I'd ever get that.

[–] rustyricotta@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

Strong rumors of Valve's new VR launching this year. Quite excited for that. Otherwise, the status (in my opinion) is stagnant. I still have fun occasionally getting into VR though.

[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

regrettably, Meta is the state of the art for VR. the Meta Quest 3 is stunningly crisp for the price point. it's almost retina-scale with the pixels, the head/spatial tracking is extremely accurate and doesn't require any base station or wired attachment, and you can fluidly stream VR games from your PC wirelessly at 1080p and like 120fps with nearly no latency or reality sickness.

I played Myst and Riven while I was sick with COVID last year, and it was one of the top five visual experiences of my lifetime (along with seeing the Grand Canyon and taking psychedelics.)

Meta has also recently finally cracked the holy grail of non-chonky AR glasses with full FoV, though the gallium nitride waveguide process is quite expensive and yields are too poor for them to sell it. but they look like slightly nerdy glasses that let you see holograms superimposed on your vision, even outdoors in the light.

unfortunately, VR is still anti-social and there's not much content there, and the company leading the way is awful. but even just for Riven alone it was worth it to me.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah hopefully other companies will advance becuase there is no way I'm giving my money to that shit company

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I did 10 yrs of TF2. Better graphics might have come in that time, but I only noticed the phlogastinator.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Zoomers played Minecraft

Millennials and Alpha play(ed) Fortnite

You could also put 10 years of RuneScape or WoW for millennials and a plethora of games that came out between 2010-2020 for Zoomers

[–] Bristingr@lemm.ee 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Millennials did not play Fortnite.

[–] expr@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not true! I installed it and played for 5 minutes once!

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Maybe graphical advancements have slowed down (especially since it takes half a decade to make a game now) but this feels a little disingenuous. Bottom is supposed to be Fortnite? I can see someone playing WoW or Quake or UT for 10 years since its release too.

Theres more variety in gaming today then there ever was, many more single dev games succeeding because they dont need to impress the likes of EA to publish their game thanks to the internet and free distribution. More platforms to choose from and multiplatform releases are more common.

The successes of one game are not reflective whole medium or the current state of gaming.

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the average "modern thing bad" to you. Especially the ones shitting on things around kids

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

My nephews (10 and 13) stayed with me a couple of weeks ago, and I got a chance to see them game. And yeah they are playing mostly Fortnite these days, but they love it. Further, it actually looks pretty intense. Like the editing and jockeying for a clean shot is more nuanced than what I was getting up to.

Like was my obsession with Quake 2 DM that much more elevated? True we had a lot more variety with mods and maps, but if I'm being honest most of my time was just spent running around Q2DM1/The Edge and a handful of other vanilla maps. I did love that Homer skin though, lol.

Anyway, I see them hooting and laughing and the whole time they're chatting with their little friends from school. I can see the joy in it. I wish it wasn't on this centralised, monetised, company platform. But I can see what they like in it.

E found it
low poly model of Homer Simpson grimacing while holding a shotgun

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

My take from this meme is that Zoomers and later are more "captured" by a few big platforms than previous ones.

And perhaps earlier ones, too.

Like, my aunts and relatives are trapped on Facebook sharing Trumpy memes. Kids younger than me seems to be really into ultra-short videos or mobile-ish games. The only people I know that know how to use a desktop PC, beyond the bare minimum for work are… about my age? Other than a senior dev.

This is a huge generalization and small sample, but still. I'm not worried about other generations doing things I don’t like (that’s always true, and a good thing), I’m worried about them being more trapped.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My take from this meme is that Zoomers and later are more “captured” by a few big platforms than previous ones.

Steam games have been around for a lot longer than 10 years. So has Nintendo. There's no reason a Zoomer wouldn't have played Stardew Valley or Undertale or Mario Odyssey or Wii Tennis.

Like, my aunts and relatives are trapped on Facebook sharing Trumpy memes. Kids younger than me seems to be really into ultra-short videos or mobile-ish games. The only people I know that know how to use a desktop PC, beyond the bare minimum for work are… about my age?

I keep seeing this complaint. I'll never understand it. I definitely know family that have mired themselves in Facebook memes. But its silly to pretend my Blessed Lemmy-4chan-channel is materially better than their Barbaric Facebook-4chan-channel. Honestly, just amazed they finally came around on computers at all. So many of my parent's generation couldn't even check email twenty years ago.

Similarly, the Office Space Millennials seem to have completely forgotten that their non-technical peers exist. Like they've never met an auto mechanic or a plumber or a doctor their age who has struggled with using a computer. I used to do IT for a physicians clinic and it was the Medical Assistants doing all the office work. The RNs and MDs couldn't do shit. Which was ironic, because so much of the IT upgrade was about reducing staff size... but the MAs were the ones who grasped the tech the fastest while the actual medical staff avoided tech like the plague.

And sure, kids half your age don't know DOS commands because they don't use DOS. But there's no shortage of Zoomer/GenA computer geeks. I ran into a gaggle of robotics club Alphas in downtown, near the local convention center, just last week. Every year my office fills up with interns who built their own PCs and threw up their own home PLEX servers for their parents who are my age.

Some of you are just so damned cloistered, insisting the three 14 year olds you know aren't doing Angelina Jolie shit from Hackers in their basements before they're even old enough to drive. But pull down your reading glasses, squint a bit, and you'll see plenty of tech savvy folks younger than you.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago

I'm playing Split Fiction with my wife right now and it's one of the best coop player games I have played in awhile. Back in my childhood, the best we had was Toe Jam and Earl.

[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

In their defense, games starting from 2016 kinda stopped having any actually meaningful graphical upgrades.

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[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago

I mean... sure, but when i was a kid if I wanted a free game I had to pirate it but all you need nowadays is to have an epic game store account and you get a free legal game every week. I would have loved that as a kid.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Shit like this made me think we would hit singularity around now,

Oh boy, was I naive

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