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[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They both have their appeals. XD

Bullying seems kind of nice up to a point, because it's overt. Past a certain point though, I'd rather not.

Deception seems really annoying and unwanted in most cases, until it becomes a certain appealing meta-system, which might just help a person deal with the terror of the unknown and the ever-shifting, confusing nature of modern life.

[–] rainrain@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think that deception is the deeper badness. You could be deceived to the eyeballs and never know it. You'd think that you're right, and all your friends are right, and everybody who disagrees is wrong and bad.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

And some people intrinsically LOVE that.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

If it was verbal bullying, definitely that. I have a very natural filter to verbal stuff. I like to call it "being autistic". Very effective enough for me. 8/10 would recommend.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Successfully or attempted? Now that I’m self confident enough to ignore them, big enough to dissuade them, and can afford to sue them, I like to think I’m no longer an easy target for bullies

I’m still way too trusting though

[–] rainrain@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

I think the important difference is that they offend in 2 different ways. Bullying offends your ... what, ego? And deception offends your morals? Or something like that.

I guess both offend your basic wellbeing too.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bullied. At least then I know where I stand and who to avoid.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

As a middle-schooler back then, I already disliked my own appearance, so I didn't know where I stood. I haven't been deceived often; in fact, I can't remember more than one major instance. I think the bullying was more damaging as it was so brazen as to not mind even other passersby noticing. I've still struggled with my appearance ever since.

Only people with a certain minimum self-confidence know where they "stand." I think for everyone else, bullying can be worse.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You don't always know when you've been deceived, and that's exactly my point. There are probably many more times you were deceived by someone you trusted and continued to be deceived by them., but you wouldn't know, because you were deceived.

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I might prefer to just not know, then. Again, bullying is typically public so it's also almost guaranteed to be embarrassing, which is an additional negative effect. Deception could just involve only you and the deceiver over something specific for which they might even have some semblance of a reason or motive.

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure I'm being deceived all day, every day. But if I'm happy regardless, then I'll take blissful ignorance.

To be clear, no one is saying they want to be deceived. But in this thought exercise, you and I agree on why we're choosing it over being bullied ❤️

[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fully agreed, and apparently this is rare. Marry me! lol.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Bullied, way easier to shut down a bully.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Bullying bc i got a fat cock and they can't take that away from me

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

My childhood gave me both! Hooray.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Is it the attempt?

Will they continually, successfully deceive/bully me? Or is someone just always gonna try?

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've been bullied and deceived. The bullying has done more lasting damage.

[–] rainrain@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The thing about being deceived is you don't know when it's happening.

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Both definitely suck

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

Bullied. I could at least get peace in solitude.

If I was deceived though, I would absolutely hate myself as I go along realizing who screwed me over and what they made me do. I'd become paranoid not knowing who to trust. Being alone might keep me away from getting deceived again but I wouldn't forgive myself for my past gullibility.

[–] singletona@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Well given the scenerio takes one away that i'm already dealing with?

Bullied. It's more straightforward.