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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'd specify that the specific type of male rage which the article is talking about is a sign of weakness.

We all make mistakes. We all get angry. Sometimes we get angry at other people when they make mistakes. Sometimes we can carry that anger with us for a long time. I can understand all this. I’ve done all these things.

What I don’t understand is this brand of masculinity that insists on continued anger, and on asserting dominance and control in a way that ultimately draws attention to weakness and fragility. It’s like we’ve empowered a whole slew of men to embrace childish behaviour in the belief that it makes them seem powerful.

That's a very different thing than just general "rage". Sometimes rage is an appropriate reaction to a set of circumstances. Personally I don't think men have many things that are worthy of raging about compared to women, but that number is nonzero.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Personally I don't think men have many things that are worthy of raging about compared to women, but that number is nonzero.

Personally, the things that make women rage usually also make me rage even when the victim is not me. And there are a bunch of things that should make anyone rage.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Sorry, I should have said "things exclusive to men".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In Buddhism there's a difference between anger and wrath.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

A tad bit more western, there's Seneca's "Of Anger". For the Stoics any emotion that dulls, no matter how slightly, rationality and thus wisdom is a vice, generally summed up under the term passions.

The virtuous way to go about is is to find whatever righteous indignation there is, let wisdom dwell on it, if it indeed was righteous then act, which will be indifference (because you realised it's immaterial / you can't do anything), forgiving, or cold-blooded (whatever of the two achieves the goal) but never anger. Wisdom got involved, it can't be.

Bonus Bruce Lee

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What definition of rage are you working off of? To be honest, it sounds like you're talking about general anger.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I'm using the article's definition.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

If you are unable to control your rage, justified or not, its still weak.

Being able to take your anger and channel it is strength, not giving way to it..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

here's a link directly to the article, instead of having to scroll through a bunch of unrelated stuff: https://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/morning-file/male-rage-is-a-sign-of-weakness-not-strength/#V2

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

looks like the main post link is updated now. thanks Sunshine!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Despite all my rage, I am still just a 5th level mage... :(

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Despite all my rage, I'm still a bacteriophage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Hah, not that kind of science. But I am quite pleased with myself

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Would have been 6th level, but you just had to dip into barbarian.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Nothing is as weak as being unable to control your emotions.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm my experience my rage was less anger at something and more frustration at being unable to produce the proper emotion for a situation. I feel that it's likely true for many men because as always we weren't raised to feel. Thanks John Wayne loving Boomer parents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

They heard the song but never listened to it

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Wow, this really hit home for me. While I’ve never been the type to yell at people in parking lots, I was a very angry teenager. Over the years, through self-improvement and a lot of introspection, I’ve learned how to manage it. If this resonates with anyone else, just know that it does get easier with practice and reflection. But the key is that you have to want to improve and take control of your emotions. Most of the time, it’s best to just stay quiet and walk away—it’s not worth it. You always end up regretting the outburst.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Can confirm, I'm quite weak and rage-y

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The loudest baboon has the smallest balls.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not true tho... is it?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Huh thx. Imma use this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Oh shoot, thanks for the update, I've been saying baboons for months lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

There is a certain type of man that always dismisses women as too emotional for leadership/management/politics then proceeds to explode at the slightest provocation.

Being emotional isn't always a bad thing. Expressing it isn't always bad. But have some fucking self awareness.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I ain't about to read all that shit.

Smol PP Syndrome.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The man in the story is an asshole and weak for sure.

I really hate the idea of saying having any emotion is a sign of weakness though, even rage.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Having emotions is fine. Failure to regulate yourself while having them is weakness.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

How else are we going to bully and abuse men if we can't characterize their normal and rational human emotions as the very thing they are most afraid of being!?

/s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's a reason this type of rage is colloquially known as impotent rage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

or over compensation rage

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For the most part, probably.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So if someone's kicking your grandmother's ass, and you get angry, it's a sign of weakness?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

A slightly different way of looking at it is hot anger Vs cold anger.

Hot anger is the obvious "angry" stereotype. It's built on adrenaline, and often used to counter fear. Cold anger is a willingness to do an unpleasant, but necessary job. It has aspects of hot anger, but they are subservient to the goal. You might still be afraid, but it's controlled and focused.

Protecting someone is generally a cold anger. You have a goal and an opponent to be either driven off, or disabled. Their own health irrelevant.

Hot anger has you beating the shit out of them, while your grandmother bleeds out. Cold anger is leaving them with a quick shattered knee, from your first kick, while moving on to first aid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm curious about your answer to this. Do you believe it is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Well, if it was my grandmammy, she'd be the one winning. She was T O U G H! I wish I had even a smidgen of her awesomeness. I bet your gammy was cool too.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I understand the sentiment, but could anyone else with a big ass truck help me get my backyard boulders out of here and into their permanent home? If you're afraid of getting a scratch on your truck bed, and you drive that thing for "work" you're probably in the list. Anyway, big ass trucks have a purpose aside from rolling over small kids, babies, cats, dogs and Grandma. The purpose is construction and other related industries where large objects need to be moved. But, I'd be happy to purchase your midlife crisis for a fair $5000 LOL.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's still a bullshit excuse because those jobs were still done before trucks became dangerously large

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Well it depends on the rock. Usually for a home related thing all you need is an old Toyota Tacoma knee high engine compartment easy to service at home. The new trucks are all retardedly tall.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Why is this getting downvoted lmao the truck issue is so prevalent (in the USA. Maybe that's why ppl don't relate?)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Male rage is a protective response. It is not weakness, it is strength. But it also travels with stupid, which is weakness.