"OUR fair and just police vs THEIR brutal murderer cops"
They should learn that ACAB means "ALL cops are bastards", not "All cops in the US and not my beloved infallible glorious prc"
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"OUR fair and just police vs THEIR brutal murderer cops"
They should learn that ACAB means "ALL cops are bastards", not "All cops in the US and not my beloved infallible glorious prc"
I vote for politicians that want certain laws.
Those laws become fact. Cops enforce them.
Why would they be a bastard?
I'mma be honest. I have never had a single interaction with a cop in Belgium. They just walk around sometimes.
Generally it would be when they choose to selectively enforce those laws to unjustly do things to people they don't like.
If that doesn't happen where you are, count yourself very, very lucky.
https://www.liberties.eu/en/stories/police-violence-belgium-echr/12867
https://www.politico.eu/article/brussels-police-violence-problem-protest-ibrahima-barrie/
I'll be honest too. It's always so weird when a white person plays dumb: "The police never bother me! The police where I live are nice!" Because only a white person is allowed to think such nonsense, regardless of where they live.
You should question why you don't already know information someone thousands of miles away from you can find in 10 seconds.
You are spoiled by living in Belgium. Most countries outside of Europe have good awful corrupt police.
They made tankie 196? Gross.
tankie-inclusive chaser central
honestly im glad someone has called it out, the US is BAD and China is also BAD but with highspeed rail and some better ideas along the way which is tbf GOOD. and if we are criticising everyone i want to know why rent and housing is so unaffordable in most of europe and why landleeches can reap. i also want to know why the hell life is worse for women in so many countries, looking at you india, iran and others. problems dont go away because u ignore them and yes sometimes less bad or least worst is progress too but we must strive for the best hard enough that if we fail to hit it we achieve at least good.
Yeah dictatorships are good if they build a train
Infrastructure Investment is an indicator of good governance... Us just provide straight cash transfer to our parasites and we get nothing in return beyond being priced gouged by industries we subsidize
I hope Americas dictator makes a train because then we could ignore having a dictatorship.
Individuals are far too complex to be 100% anything, so the same applies to the added complexity of a state.
The state is 100% something. It's 100% useless and harmful. source: https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionB.html#secb2 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1PV02IzWpo
In America police violence is shown on tv and presented as a good thing actually, in china it's not on tv.
And if you talk about police violence in China the police come to your house and tell you to stop.
If you don't stop you and your family dissappear.
At least it's not on TV, otherwise the public might get concerned!
Well the USA doesn't have Execution Vans yet if we're comparing.
We still have police in vans running around executing people with guns. I think we should really stop splitting hairs and just settle on both police forces being authoritarian death cultists.
Looks like universal Monk has a new alt.. or is it noted sociopath linkerbaans alt?
Damn linkerbaan, now there's a name I haven't heard in a while.
Thank God
I have no alt names though--I'm just on a few different instances. I use my same name though.
Funnily enough, back in the day, people thought I was an alt of linkerbaans.
You guys seem to believe you see "alts" everywhere, especially if you disagree with someone.
You know, it could be, that there are more than one or two people that disagree with you. And that's ok. That doesn't mean they are the same person. lol
It turns out all countries have an authoritarian desire and like to do horrible stuff to their civilians. At any point in time some may be better than others. But all of the problems stem from the same root problem of power. It's a human thing and it's unavoidable. Something that citizens will always need to fight against.
Tankies love to gloss over the fact the US is way more democratic than China despite recent events.
The two party system is an illusion of choice...the same parasite has hands in both socks
Hey look it's the tankie doing the glossing
My work speaks for itself. If you are going to make accusations at least do some basic diligence, boy
Dont dare talk about communist crimes, cause capitalism murders like 10 million people a day. A day! No you can't see any proof and you wouldn't understand russian anyway if I did. Kill all landlords. T. Didn't finish highschool and get fired from mcdonalds every 3 months.
Dont dare talk about communist crimes
Funny thing is that you've got a new crop of YouTube streamers going to these regions in China and coming out of them immersed in the culture and lifestyle that we've been told repeatedly was exterminated.
We also had a UN Human Rights investigation into the region that came out woefully short of what western media sources reported, such that anti-China critics are now complaining that the UN isn't a reliable investigator.
It all reeks of the same march to war we heard with Iraq. IAEA investigators running through the country looking for nuclear weapons that don't exist. Hair-raising stories about babies being ripped from incubators and smashed to death by soldiers that turned out to be wild fabrications. Religious cult groups insisting they were being horribly persecuted, when its later discovered they were - themselves - caught up in all sorts of human rights abuses and financial scandals.
Didn’t finish highschool and get fired from mcdonalds every 3 months.
Its so weird to see the knee-jerk Lemmy response to skepticism of China Hawks boil down to "You're too stupid to work at McDonalds". Like, fuck me, man. That's so corporate-brained, it makes me nauseous. Even outside the realm of HailCorporate Reddit and psycho hustler culture Twitter, you've still got folks who value a human's intellectual capacity and innate humanity by how much money they can produce for shareholders.
Is this a sub dedicated to hand-wringing over tankies and sinoapologists?
I'd characterize it as spotlighting, calling out, and lambasting rather than hand-wringing, but yes. From the community info:
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
Why don't you do something productive with your time, like attacking nazis or fascists instead of the few people that are actually working on making the US more socialist and equitable.
What do you think tankies are?
They are just as much fan of authoritarian police states as nazis.
"few people that are actually working on making the US more socialist and equitable."
actually got a good chuckle out of that line. i hope you don't genuinely believe that
I'm doing my part by POSTING. Are you doing your part?
Haya tocopherol! How can we Stalin your Trump?
We are. The funny thing is that you tankies are never criticising actual fascists, you spend all of your time handwringing over "liberals", while regurgitating the propaganda of fascists.
Why would we bother criticizing fascists? Do you think a nazi will change his mind because I argued against totalitarianism and xenophobia well enough? Tankies critique the left because we actually have a chance of working together. I'd be curious to know what fascist propaganda tankies espouse according to you also.
More like a comm