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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"OUR fair and just police vs THEIR brutal murderer cops"

They should learn that ACAB means "ALL cops are bastards", not "All cops in the US and not my beloved infallible glorious prc"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I vote for politicians that want certain laws.

Those laws become fact. Cops enforce them.

Why would they be a bastard?

I'mma be honest. I have never had a single interaction with a cop in Belgium. They just walk around sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Generally it would be when they choose to selectively enforce those laws to unjustly do things to people they don't like.

If that doesn't happen where you are, count yourself very, very lucky.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

https://www.liberties.eu/en/stories/police-violence-belgium-echr/12867

https://www.brusselstimes.com/670348/true-nature-of-police-violence-in-belgium-hidden-by-transparency-issues

https://apnews.com/article/united-nations-europe-belgium-violence-race-and-ethnicity-33d5c3ff019ce5065a597432e166deaf

https://www.politico.eu/article/brussels-police-violence-problem-protest-ibrahima-barrie/

https://www.enar-eu.org/police-brutality-and-racialised-minors-in-belgium-death-threats-slurs-and-victim-blaming/

I'll be honest too. It's always so weird when a white person plays dumb: "The police never bother me! The police where I live are nice!" Because only a white person is allowed to think such nonsense, regardless of where they live.

You should question why you don't already know information someone thousands of miles away from you can find in 10 seconds.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are spoiled by living in Belgium. Most countries outside of Europe have good awful corrupt police.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They made tankie 196? Gross.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

tankie-inclusive chaser central

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

honestly im glad someone has called it out, the US is BAD and China is also BAD but with highspeed rail and some better ideas along the way which is tbf GOOD. and if we are criticising everyone i want to know why rent and housing is so unaffordable in most of europe and why landleeches can reap. i also want to know why the hell life is worse for women in so many countries, looking at you india, iran and others. problems dont go away because u ignore them and yes sometimes less bad or least worst is progress too but we must strive for the best hard enough that if we fail to hit it we achieve at least good.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah dictatorships are good if they build a train

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Infrastructure Investment is an indicator of good governance... Us just provide straight cash transfer to our parasites and we get nothing in return beyond being priced gouged by industries we subsidize

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I hope Americas dictator makes a train because then we could ignore having a dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Individuals are far too complex to be 100% anything, so the same applies to the added complexity of a state.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The state is 100% something. It's 100% useless and harmful. source: https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/sectionB.html#secb2 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1PV02IzWpo

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (11 children)

In America police violence is shown on tv and presented as a good thing actually, in china it's not on tv.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And if you talk about police violence in China the police come to your house and tell you to stop.

If you don't stop you and your family dissappear.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

At least it's not on TV, otherwise the public might get concerned!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Well the USA doesn't have Execution Vans yet if we're comparing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

We still have police in vans running around executing people with guns. I think we should really stop splitting hairs and just settle on both police forces being authoritarian death cultists.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Looks like universal Monk has a new alt.. or is it noted sociopath linkerbaans alt?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Damn linkerbaan, now there's a name I haven't heard in a while.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I have no alt names though--I'm just on a few different instances. I use my same name though.

Funnily enough, back in the day, people thought I was an alt of linkerbaans.

You guys seem to believe you see "alts" everywhere, especially if you disagree with someone.

You know, it could be, that there are more than one or two people that disagree with you. And that's ok. That doesn't mean they are the same person. lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Jack Ma is just being educated to this day lemmy! Don't look behind the prisons!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

It turns out all countries have an authoritarian desire and like to do horrible stuff to their civilians. At any point in time some may be better than others. But all of the problems stem from the same root problem of power. It's a human thing and it's unavoidable. Something that citizens will always need to fight against.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Tankies love to gloss over the fact the US is way more democratic than China despite recent events.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The two party system is an illusion of choice...the same parasite has hands in both socks

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey look it's the tankie doing the glossing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

My work speaks for itself. If you are going to make accusations at least do some basic diligence, boy

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dont dare talk about communist crimes, cause capitalism murders like 10 million people a day. A day! No you can't see any proof and you wouldn't understand russian anyway if I did. Kill all landlords. T. Didn't finish highschool and get fired from mcdonalds every 3 months.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Dont dare talk about communist crimes

Funny thing is that you've got a new crop of YouTube streamers going to these regions in China and coming out of them immersed in the culture and lifestyle that we've been told repeatedly was exterminated.

We also had a UN Human Rights investigation into the region that came out woefully short of what western media sources reported, such that anti-China critics are now complaining that the UN isn't a reliable investigator.

It all reeks of the same march to war we heard with Iraq. IAEA investigators running through the country looking for nuclear weapons that don't exist. Hair-raising stories about babies being ripped from incubators and smashed to death by soldiers that turned out to be wild fabrications. Religious cult groups insisting they were being horribly persecuted, when its later discovered they were - themselves - caught up in all sorts of human rights abuses and financial scandals.

Didn’t finish highschool and get fired from mcdonalds every 3 months.

Its so weird to see the knee-jerk Lemmy response to skepticism of China Hawks boil down to "You're too stupid to work at McDonalds". Like, fuck me, man. That's so corporate-brained, it makes me nauseous. Even outside the realm of HailCorporate Reddit and psycho hustler culture Twitter, you've still got folks who value a human's intellectual capacity and innate humanity by how much money they can produce for shareholders.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Is this a sub dedicated to hand-wringing over tankies and sinoapologists?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd characterize it as spotlighting, calling out, and lambasting rather than hand-wringing, but yes. From the community info:

Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

Why don't you do something productive with your time, like attacking nazis or fascists instead of the few people that are actually working on making the US more socialist and equitable.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

What do you think tankies are?

They are just as much fan of authoritarian police states as nazis.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"few people that are actually working on making the US more socialist and equitable."

actually got a good chuckle out of that line. i hope you don't genuinely believe that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I'm doing my part by POSTING. Are you doing your part?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Haya tocopherol! How can we Stalin your Trump?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We are. The funny thing is that you tankies are never criticising actual fascists, you spend all of your time handwringing over "liberals", while regurgitating the propaganda of fascists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Why would we bother criticizing fascists? Do you think a nazi will change his mind because I argued against totalitarianism and xenophobia well enough? Tankies critique the left because we actually have a chance of working together. I'd be curious to know what fascist propaganda tankies espouse according to you also.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

More like a comm

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